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[dommie]

Got ahold of a few copies of Xenophobe for the 2600. Pretty minty condition. Any guesses on value?

[jaybird3rd]

About $30 plus shipping. AtariAge member edintv has one for sale on GameGavel:

http://www.gamegavel...item=0000590389

[Dino]

About $10. There are dozens of these that have surfaced in Venezuela

[save2600]

$10 examples in PAL and $20 for NTSC.

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 320832869857

[dommie]

Seems awful low for a R7...

[save2600]

dommie, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:53 PM, said:

Seems awful low for a R7...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but rarity does not always translate to a high monetary value.

BTW: I see you neglected to fill out your profile. Where are you located? If you're in South America... the "few" copies you're sitting on would be worth considerably less to most of the populous there. Obviously.

[dommie]

Sorry, I'm in Pennsylvania, not South America. And by "few", I mean a case (6).

[save2600]

I've passed on these for $10 (PAL version) as I only need the box and manual. One of these days, I might pop for a whole $20 shipped, just to get the paper I need for my cartridge. Probably not though. I already know the game doesn't allow two-player simultaneous play - despite what the back of the box tries to have you believe.

BTW: what did you pay for the case? That might be an indicator of what it might be worth to someone. Divide by six and voila! There's your answer.

[jaybird3rd]

save2600, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:04 PM, said:

Divide by six and voila! There's your answer.

This is very off-topic, but thank you so much for not writing "walla".

[dommie]

save2600, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:04 PM, said:

BTW: what did you pay for the case? That might be an indicator of what it might be worth to someone. Divide by six and voila! There's your answer.

I bought the case wholesale for pennies on the dollar, for resale in my retail store. I wouldn't be in business very long if I sold everything for what I bought it for. But I appreciate everybody's input.

[save2600]

Okay, well if it's a brick and mortar store we're talking about, you still have the challenge of trying to peddle a niche product locally, which in my estimation, is going to be even more tricky to put a price on. If you've got 6 Atari 2600 enthusiasts who happen to be in the area and are unaware of the Internet... than hell, put whatever price you want on it. My guess is someone like that is not going to pay more than $5-$10 for an old Atari 2600 game. New in the shrink-wrap or not. After all, who knows if it still works after all these years but I'm sure you have a return or warranty policy of some kind though.

If they have internet access, cell phones with internet access at least, are collectors and have a general clue as to its value, then you're back to the same position as has already been outlined. $30-$40 tops to the person who might be too scared to order from a dealer in South America and is impulsive.

Again, sorry to disappoint, but you asked a forum which happens to reside online, what something was worth and we told you. If you had asked a conglomerate of brick and mortar resellers, I'm sure they would have given you a different answer. And said answer might be followed by: "...oh, but we've been sitting on these titles we think are worth big bucks for years and years".

In any event, good luck!

[dommie]

I guess we disagree on value then, no biggie. A google search in products only brings up a loose cart for $66 (which is obviously overpriced, but still), and an incorrect ebay listing for Anticipation on the NES.

http://www.nintendos...00-p-12158.html

Going directly to ebay only brings up 1 sealed, for $33 including shipping, but it's located in South America. Which you have to take with a grain of salt if you're trying to compare it to the US market.

And then there's the one on Gamegavel for $30. But I regularly find gamegavel prices to be below retail as well.

My instinct is to price it at $59.99 and call it a day. I can always reevaluate at a later point. It's easier to lower a price than to raise one. JMHO as a vintage game retailer for the past 2 years.

[Dino]

dommie, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:53 PM, said:

Seems awful low for a R7...

That's because its not an R7. The R7 was the pre-Sth American discovery position. Now that these have surfaced there, their probably a R2-3. Their long term value will probably be around the $5 mark.

If you can get $60 for them then more power to you, but as they keep coming into the US from the south the number of collectors that find out about the Sth American find will increase and your ability to flog these off to unsuspecting collectors will reduce. So sell them for what you can now!!

Edited by Dino, Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:11 PM.

[Dino]

I'm certain there was a Sth American website that was offering these for $10 too. You may want to check that out. I'd take a punt buying it for $10 from Sth America than $60 locally

[dommie]

I gotcha - so they're not actually an R7. That makes more sense. Any estimates of how big the "flood" of them actually is. I don't see all that many for sale at the moment - just the odd ebay listing from S. America currently, and that's about it.

[save2600]

dommie, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:04 PM, said:

I guess we disagree on value then, no biggie.

Ha, I *knew* you were fishing for a higher value!

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Going directly to ebay only brings up 1 sealed, for $33 including shipping, but it's located in South America. Which you have to take with a grain of salt if you're trying to compare it to the US market.

Why? The internet is World Wide. It's the year 2012. Most people into this stuff are accustomed to not only having their currencies translated for them electronically, but are also familiar with all the trivialities in dealing internationally.

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My instinct is to price it at $59.99 and call it a day. I can always reevaluate at a later point. It's easier to lower a price than to raise one. JMHO as a vintage game retailer for the past 2 years.

That's cool. Only other comment I'll make is that I hope you don't end up ruining your reputation as a competitive reseller which ultimately has people ceasing to stop by your place because they know they can count on your prices being 2x-4x as much as can be found online. It's like the destination that is closed more often then they are not. People just get used to not going there.

And when your internet capable computer doubles as a point of sale behind the counter, said customers are even more likely to be diligent when it comes to cost comparisons.

[dommie]

The reason why you take it with a grain of salt on the S. American prices is due to the shipping timeframes and hassles of trying to direct import from S. America. Plus the potential for customs to tear open the plastic to inspect the product. And the potential shadiness of buying anything in S. America.

That's all I was saying.

My reputation is solid. Prices are relative, and what seems like "way too much" in WI may seem "way too cheap" in other areas like New York or metro Philadelphia.

Edited by dommie, Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:24 PM.

[save2600]

I see what you're saying.

Yeah, there's always going to be a faction of folks that need their stuff yesterday or whatever but the recent South American sellers as of late (the past few years) have been super reliable and literally go out of their way to try to develop a good name for themselves in these circles. Most of us collectors on the net recognize this and are not afraid to deal with Jose or Eduardo from down south.

[atari181]

Good luck asking anything over 20 bucks at a retail level. Sell them on eBay and you should be able to get 20-30 for each, they are definatley no longer an R7.

[save2600]

dommie, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:22 PM, said:

My reputation is solid. Prices are relative, and what seems like "way too much" in WI may seem "way too cheap" in other areas like New York or metro Philadelphia.

Hahahaha!

I just commented about this on another forum. Geographic price differences that is. Seems to me, out on the East Coast, people are always giving vintage gaming stuff away. Arcade, pinball and vintage computing I'm talking about. Not sure how classic console gaming fits into this, but I do recognize the difference in price that miles and distance can make.

[Dino]

dommie, on Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:15 PM, said:

I gotcha - so they're not actually an R7. That makes more sense. Any estimates of how big the "flood" of them actually is. I don't see all that many for sale at the moment - just the odd ebay listing from S. America currently, and that's about it.

Almost everything that's coming out of Venezuela is in extremely large quantities. They try and trickle them out as best as possible so an not to deflate the price too much, but the price will head south to the point that they will offer them for $5 and have no takers. This has happened to motorodeo and ikari which used to sell for $400 a pop.

[Pioneer4x4]

Offer them on eBay 1 at a time for $1 less than S.A. total PLUS US shipping.
Where in Pennsylvania are you?

[dommie]

I'm towards the Philadelphia end. I don't sell on ebay, so not an issue there.

[Red 5]

They are worth $15 on a bad day, $30 on a good day. (Which means $20 - $25)

If you had a time machine to go back in time when these were actually R7 then you could make more. In reality, with how many of amount of these that have been found lately, NIB copies are easier to find than loose copies. That said, people are still paying too much because up until a few years ago, they were used to paying a lot more. The warehouse find brought the price down, but not to where it should be. Motorodeo, Ikari Warriors and especially Xenophobe should all be NIB for $10 - $20, but the old high prices when they were actually rare seem to keep the current price up for some reason.

[HatefulGravey]

When I find myself in a place where I'm wondering about the value of something I know I am going to sell I put it up for auction. The BIN stuff on eBay is a bad way to look at things. That gives you no idea what so ever about the value of the item. However, if you list the item for auction and get a few people interested you will find out what it is worst. Put one up for auction on eBay with a low starting offer and reasonable shipping and get your answer. Let us know, I'll bid.