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[JagChris]

Chilly I think I like your version of Wolf3d 32x better than the Jag's version. If I'm not mistaken the enemies are in full 3d? This is something the Jaguar version doesn't have.

[Chilly Willy]

JagChris, on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:33 AM, said:

Chilly I think I like your version of Wolf3d 32x better than the Jag's version. If I'm not mistaken the enemies are in full 3d? This is something the Jaguar version doesn't have.

I noticed that on the Jaguar version... it's like Doom on most other consoles of the time - the baddies always facing you. I would guess that means they based it on the Mac version of Wolf3D (forward facing baddies are a prime way of telling which W3D ports derive from the Mac branch - the Mac branch seems to be the main port base for Wolf3D much like the Jaguar branch of Doom is the base for most other console ports of Doom). I based the 32X version on the PSP version, which I also worked on, which was in turn based on Wolf4SDL v1.5.

I was thinking to myself - I'm currently updating the 32X version of Wolf3D to the Wolf4SDL v1.7, which has lots of great stuff in it; it would also make a really good base for a Jagaur version. So it's on the Jaguar TODO list.

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Chilly Willy, on Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:37 PM, said:

JagChris, on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:33 AM, said:

Chilly I think I like your version of Wolf3d 32x better than the Jag's version. If I'm not mistaken the enemies are in full 3d? This is something the Jaguar version doesn't have.

I noticed that on the Jaguar version... it's like Doom on most other consoles of the time - the baddies always facing you. I would guess that means they based it on the Mac version of Wolf3D (forward facing baddies are a prime way of telling which W3D ports derive from the Mac branch - the Mac branch seems to be the main port base for Wolf3D much like the Jaguar branch of Doom is the base for most other console ports of Doom). I based the 32X version on the PSP version, which I also worked on, which was in turn based on Wolf4SDL v1.5.

I was thinking to myself - I'm currently updating the 32X version of Wolf3D to the Wolf4SDL v1.7, which has lots of great stuff in it; it would also make a really good base for a Jagaur version. So it's on the Jaguar TODO list.

wow! thatd be sweet to have a more complete version of wolf on the jag ,and btw you can always make a bjl adapter, i made one in about 10 minutes or so

[Chilly Willy]

_shameless_, on Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:22 PM, said:

and btw you can always make a bjl adapter, i made one in about 10 minutes or so

Yeah, but I'd rather just hang loose for a bit and see if I can get by without it. I don't want to fool around inside the Jag if I don't have to.

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yea you got a point there, did mine the way i did because it was the cheapest method, replacing eeprom, hacking a bjl cable from a parallel cable. we all got our ways of doing stuff

[rush6432]

Would be cool to see an updated version of wolf3d for the jag.

The source code for the jag version from what i understand has not been found but i could be wrong. A collector might be sitting on it...

Anyhow, give myself or any of the other devs here a shout if you have any questions on anything. Always happy to help or point you in the right direction atleast.

[Chilly Willy]

Even if the source for JagWolf was available, I wouldn't work from it. It would be better to use a better newer base, like Wolf4SDL, then put the work into improving the graphics.

[CrazyChris]

BJL has been great for trying demos and homebrew games. I wish there was a
USB version.

_shameless_, on Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:28 PM, said:

bjl definantly is the way to go for a cheap way of making homebrew from what ive heard. i emailed him again just to see if it wasn't my internet

[Chilly Willy]

CrazyChris, on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:14 PM, said:

BJL has been great for trying demos and homebrew games. I wish there was a
USB version.

Something like this: http://krikzz.com/link-unit.html

I've got two of those for the Genesis, but you could see where something similar could be done almost exactly the same way for the Jaguar.

[Jag_Slave]

CrazyChris, on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:14 PM, said:

BJL has been great for trying demos and homebrew games. I wish there was a
USB version.

_shameless_, on Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:28 PM, said:

bjl definantly is the way to go for a cheap way of making homebrew from what ive heard. i emailed him again just to see if it wasn't my internet

Skunk is pretty good for USB

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Jag_Slave, on Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:06 PM, said:

CrazyChris, on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:14 PM, said:

BJL has been great for trying demos and homebrew games. I wish there was a
USB version.

_shameless_, on Mon Feb 6, 2012 3:28 PM, said:

bjl definantly is the way to go for a cheap way of making homebrew from what ive heard. i emailed him again just to see if it wasn't my internet

Skunk is pretty good for USB

skunks these days cost an arm and a leg though it seems

[rush6432]

Not cheap, but worth it

but seriously though. i mean you can buy a card with a serial port on it for your box these days from newegg.com that are like 20 bucks....
build a cable and transfer speeds are just fine... multiple revisions of the bjl uploader tool exist and have been re-tooled for different platforms. no need to re-invent the wheel....

Edited by rush6432, Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:53 AM.

[Zerosquare]

You need a parallel port card for BJL, not serial.

[rush6432]

Zerosquare, on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:35 PM, said:

You need a parallel port card for BJL, not serial.

You're right, my mistake. db25 parallel port. you can buy one though still from newegg.com for 20-25 USD.

[Chilly Willy]

Just got my BJL adapter in the mail! Looks nice... very well done. Now I just need a BJL cart/game.

[walter_J64bit]

Awesome!

[rush6432]

Good to hear! looking forward to more homebrew stuff coming out from others!

[Chilly Willy]

Well, I got the BJL adapter and Protector SE. So I got homebrew running now. It took a little experimentation to find the "sweet spot" in the timing - my system seems to work best with a wait of 3. Timing how long it took to load a 1MB hombrew (24 seconds), I get about 41 KB/sec transfer via the BJL in 8-bit mode. Not bad for a parallel port cable.