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[the.golden.ax]

I'm trying to order an inexpensive but uncommon part from a Japanese website and can't read or translate to place an order. If someone wouldn't mind helping me out I'd really appreciate it. If they only ship to JP I may need help to get it over to the USA. It's a small item (regular envelope size).

AX

[newtype5]

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

[Rex Dart]

There's nothing inherently racist about abbreviations.

[the.golden.ax]

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

Just what the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with my post. You know who is racist? The people that imply racism when there is no intent. It's called reverse racism. It is more of a cancer in this world than the real thing (persecution of anyone of a specific race). I have NOTHING against any race of people. Having studied genetics for 4 years I have more than a qualified perspective on how stupid racism is. No where in my post did I use "JAP." If I had, it still wouldn't make it a race related comment.

What I do have a problem with is idiots. They are everywhere, race doesn't matter.

[theloon]

I've never thought of "Jap" as a racist term. Might have the same connotations as calling an American a "Yankee". Yankee may actually be slightly derogatory in Japanese as that's something you'd shout at delinquents making too much noise outside your window over there

If you don't get a proper reply how about telling us what exactly you're looking for? maybe we can find a more English readable source.

Edited by theloon, Today, 12:15 PM.

[the.golden.ax]

I found an email for the company and I sent one off. They have some English on their site so I'm hoping they will be able to help me. It's just all their order buttons and forms that are Japanese text (images and buttons).

[Crazy Climber]

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

JAP is just an abbreviation dude, some websites will even have that when paying in JAP currency/etc
Now, if someone were to say "those Japs/etc" you might have a case but using the abbriviation JAP is NOT racist
Getting a little tired of people freaking out over something they damn well know wasn't meant to be racist.

Take a look at the Axman's post...

the.golden.ax, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:15 AM, said:

I'm trying to order an inexpensive but uncommon part from a Japanese website and can't read or translate to place an order. If someone wouldn't mind helping me out I'd really appreciate it. If they only ship to JP I may need help to get it over to the USA. It's a small item (regular envelope size).

AX

Note it does not say anything anywhere in it reffering to the abbriviation that YOU find racist, almost looks as if he went out of his way not to use it just for sensitive people like you but yet you insist on this reply...

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

Basically you are looking for a fight and feel the need to "out" him as a racist when you know he isn't. People like YOU are the problem here, Ax's post was fine

[GonzoGamer]

too damn much political correctness in the world today, lightin up "newtype5" life is too short to be such a tight a-s!

[Rex Dart]

I wonder if he gets upset when people say "yam" too.

Or whenever he looks at a map & sees a country whose name begins with such a nasty racist word: Jap(an). I mean, that has to be as bad as Krautland, N*****topia, or Dagonia...

Edited by Rex Dart, Today, 2:18 PM.

[jtoubeaux]

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

Please come back to defend yourself, we're all waiting patiently with big boy panties (but you have to bring your own) ... or are ya YELLOW?

Oh wait, is that a racist term too? Ax is right - the real racists are those that imply racism when there is no intent. Damn, what is wrong with people?

This person is obviously referring to something that happened in the past - wonder what it was? We'll probably never find out because he's probably too chicken (make a flagrant statement and then sign off) - my sincerest apologies and condolensces to chickens (poultry) everywhere, I meant no disrespect (can i get a 'bawk bawk'??)

[DaytonaUSA]

The first people who scream "racist!" are generally the racists. In fact, I'd put money down on the probability that there are more minorities that are racist.

Reminds me of when I had a co-worker get in my face because I called a project's process "retarded". No joking, they had no clue that word actually meant anything other than mentally handicapped. Took 5 minutes of severe screaming from over-reaction until she listened to the definition of the word and let it soak in.

Edited by DaytonaUSA, Today, 2:22 PM.

[the.golden.ax]

Crazy Climber, on Thu May 24, 2012 12:18 PM, said:

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

JAP is just an abbreviation dude, some websites will even have that when paying in JAP currency/etc
Now, if someone were to say "those Japs/etc" you might have a case but using the abbriviation JAP is NOT racist
Getting a little tired of people freaking out over something they damn well know wasn't meant to be racist.

Take a look at the Axman's post...

the.golden.ax, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:15 AM, said:

I'm trying to order an inexpensive but uncommon part from a Japanese website and can't read or translate to place an order. If someone wouldn't mind helping me out I'd really appreciate it. If they only ship to JP I may need help to get it over to the USA. It's a small item (regular envelope size).

AX

Note it does not say anything anywhere in it reffering to the abbriviation that YOU find racist, almost looks as if he went out of his way not to use it just for sensitive people like you but yet you insist on this reply...

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

Basically you are looking for a fight and feel the need to "out" him as a racist when you know he isn't. People like YOU are the problem here, Ax's post was fine

I think it's a simple grudge. At some point in the past (I think more than a YEAR) I used that abbreviation on a list of import games. I also defended it's use for identifying games IIRC more than a year ago. Since that time, I have made the effort to use JPN so there can be no doubt. If you really want to look through my posts you would find that I'VE made that effort consciously - even though I shouldn't have to. I also didn't answer his repeated PMs wanting to buy a game when I was down on my luck and trying to move. The game was packed up and not accessible at the time. I didn't owe it to him, or anything like that, he just wanted to purchase something. I didn't respond because I didn't have my hands on it yet, and I kept trying to remember to get at it and see if I could even offer it for sale. Figuring I'd just reply once I had it. He got lippy with the rolly eyes icon when I wasn't quick enough with a reply asking why he even bothered. Whatever the reason, I'm clearly on his mind. Let it go man, I have no quarrel with you. Life is too short.

[Crazy Climber]

Damn, over 2700+ racist bastards on Ebay use the word "jap" in the auction titles
http://rover.ebay.co...&mtid=824&kw=lg
Looks like you got some work to do newtype5, better let them all know how terrible they are...

[DaytonaUSA]

I always use JAP or JP when listing imports in my for sale threads. If someone has an issue with that, they don't get to buy my stuff. What is he going to do, call up Keebler and tell them not to put the word Cracker on their box next to a white elf?

[jtoubeaux]

DaytonaUSA, on Thu May 24, 2012 2:25 PM, said:

I always use JAP or JP when listing imports in my for sale threads. If someone has an issue with that, they don't get to buy my stuff. What is he going to do, call up Keebler and tell them not to put the word Cracker on their box next to a white elf?

[Rex Dart]

DaytonaUSA, on Thu May 24, 2012 2:25 PM, said:

I always use JAP or JP when listing imports in my for sale threads.

JP, huh!? Are you insinuating that they're a nation of pee-fetishists? You make me sick...

[Crazy Climber]

DaytonaUSA, on Thu May 24, 2012 2:19 PM, said:

The first people who scream "racist!" are generally the racists. In fact, I'd put money down on the probability that there are more minorities that are racist.

Well, there are plenty of racist white people too but I'm just personally tired of this shit where people instantly cry racism when deep down they KNOW the person is not intentionally being racist and are just trying to land them on some technicality.

Newtype5's response was a great example, his accusations were completely unneccesary.

Recently when it was mentioned I didn't vote for our current president at my Wife's place of employment, one of my Wife's co-workers accused me of being racist...this shit has to stop, it's getting rediculous...

*Disclamer - this post has nothing to do with politics directly or my political views, just showing an example of a BS reason I was accused of racism

[jtoubeaux]

Crazy Climber, on Thu May 24, 2012 2:43 PM, said:

DaytonaUSA, on Thu May 24, 2012 2:19 PM, said:

The first people who scream "racist!" are generally the racists. In fact, I'd put money down on the probability that there are more minorities that are racist.

Well, there are plenty of racist white people too but I'm just personally tired of this shit where people instantly cry racism when deep down they KNOW the person is not intentionally being racist and are just trying to land them on some technicality.

Newtype5's response was a great example, his accusations were completely unneccesary.

Recently when it was mentioned I didn't vote for our current president at my Wife's place of employment, one of my Wife's co-workers accused me of being racist...this shit has to stop, it's getting rediculous...

*Disclamer - this post has nothing to do with politics directly or my political views, just showing an example of a BS reason I was accused of racism

But that is where our society is heading and fast - You cannot have a non-biased thought or opinion (in other people's views). If you don't like Obama it's because he is black. If you don't like Rosie O'Donnell it's because she is gay. If you like Snooky it's because ... well, let's not push this discussion outiside the confines of reality now.

[DaytonaUSA]

Not to further derail the thread but, the sad thing is that it's not the world, it's really just the US. Go to Japan, Europe, Canada, etc. No one is as uptight, defensive, and anal as people are in the US. It honestly makes me embarrassed how confrontational and defensive people in this nation can be.

So a word of wisdom to GoldenAxe. Don't consciously try to change a natural and innocent way of describing merchandise. Be yourself, talk like yourself, post like yourself. Personally, I'd give you more respect if you did that than if you consciously nitpicked every word you said to make sure it was PC.

Because in this world, there are things that are retarded (agonizingly slow), things that are gay (odd or happy), and things that bear descriptive abbreviations that can be taken the wrong way in a completely different context (JAP). If people can't get used to that, it's time to remove yourself from civilization and live in the woods.

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

newtype5, on Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 AM, said:

hmm, well i could help with that, but why don't you refer to it as 'jap' website, or 'jap' parts, as you have said in the past that you see nothing wrong with that racist term.

Wow your an asshole (whatever race you are) surely you can take your racism argument to other forums or sites where it is much more warranted? You just seem to be looking for trouble. I recall living in a shared accommodation, one of the tenants a African American woman had a huge chip on her shoulder, you could not watch or look at anything that she could not find some racism in, fucking annoying, she use to go on about how she grew up in "The projects" turns out she grew up in Don Mount Cort in Toronto and while this was low income housing it was hardly "The Projects" but the way she spun it you'd think she had grown up in the "Hood" lol. I think the worse was once in our shared refrigerator though I tried my best to keep in mind the space constraints I had picked up a little extra one day, I guess some of my food items spilled over to her side, when she saw this instead of just asking me about it she very seriously and angrily asked "ARE YOU DISRESPECTING MY FOOD?" yes she actually fucking said that, I just stared at her with a "Give me a fucking break" kind of look. You know, as has been pointed out "reverse racism" is a cancer and these days far worse in some cases. I to have even been accused, kind of funny as myself, my mother are mixes of several races, I am married to a woman from GOA and my father who I have not seen since I was 5 is more African American then white male and many other examples I could mention. Anyway my point being it pisses me off when someone attacks someone else or makes a big racism accusation over the littlest thing. My god an abbreviation in this case that I have seen done so many times even in reviews and articles, no I am not condoning it or saying it is wrong but in my experience when someone is truly being racist it usually starts with an opening like "Not to sound racist BUT......: either that or it is very obviously intended to be racist. STOP LOOKING FOR SHIT and making a racial issue out of it especially when you truly know nothing else about the person, their background, upbringing etc, instead of just making a blind unfounded accusation based on some stupid little thing , geeez just how long have you been waiting in the wings to strike the moment the OP dare mentioned Japan or Japanese again? GET A LIFE.

Edited by OldSchoolRetroGamer, Today, 4:03 PM.

[atari181]

well, Ill just throw my two cents in as I know Newtype5 probably better than anyone here. I know based upon the last few weeks that my opinion is apparently not held in high regard, but.

Jap is definately a racist term in the Japenese culture. Newtype5 has first hand experience on this.
The comments are based upon previous comments from awhile ago.(Jap is used many times around here) wether Ax was one of the people who said It before, I cannot say. According to him it was.
It is True that the US has become a place of everyone being oversensitive all the time. Not sure this is the case here. I'm sure most of you have very "Passionate" feelings on this as I know he does. It is a no win situation for everyone to continue this thread(might as well be talking politics) as people can become very mad about things like this.
Maybe a PM between the two would go a long way?

I am sure that he is done with this thread and wont comment any further, calling him a chicken wont help(His real name isn't Marty McFly)

I think this is a Lose Lose situation

[Rex Dart]

atari181, on Thu May 24, 2012 4:12 PM, said:

It is True that the US has become a place of everyone being oversensitive all the time. Not sure this is the case here.
I think this is a Lose Lose situation

The guy flipped out over an abbreviation that was not even used. I think I can identify a loser in this situation.

[the.golden.ax]

March 19th 2010. You think racism is bad, how about a two year grudge? Here is the original infraction. Started by newtype5 in the same way.

http://www.atariage....s/#entry1967575

[Chuck D. Head]

atari181, on Thu May 24, 2012 4:12 PM, said:

well, Ill just throw my two cents in as I know Newtype5 probably better than anyone here. I know based upon the last few weeks that my opinion is apparently not held in high regard, but.

Jap is definately a racist term in the Japenese culture. Newtype5 has first hand experience on this.
The comments are based upon previous comments from awhile ago.(Jap is used many times around here) wether Ax was one of the people who said It before, I cannot say. According to him it was.
It is True that the US has become a place of everyone being oversensitive all the time. Not sure this is the case here. I'm sure most of you have very "Passionate" feelings on this as I know he does. It is a no win situation for everyone to continue this thread(might as well be talking politics) as people can become very mad about things like this.
Maybe a PM between the two would go a long way?

I am sure that he is done with this thread and wont comment any further, calling him a chicken wont help(His real name isn't Marty McFly)

I think this is a Lose Lose situation

I think a PM in the first place - "just a heads-up, some people find "jap" offensive" would have gone a long way. I would just bet Ax would have posted "Poll: is "jap" an offensive term?" to gauge what people thought. Waiting to pounce of him when he didnt even do it is pretty weak. I have heard that it is offensive on just a few occasions, however I hear people say it who I know would never use more established slurs. Anyhow, the reply was not really productive. As for me, if I want to insult someone, I dont really need to pick on race, religion, etc; "douche", "asshole" and "dickhead" are descriptive well beyond the bounds of color, etc.

Edited by Chuck D. Head, Today, 4:49 PM.

[Rex Dart]

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the.golden.ax, on Thu May 24, 2012 4:43 PM, said:

March 19th 2010. You think racism is bad, how about a two year grudge? Here is the original infraction. Started by newtype5 in the same way.

http://www.atariage....s/#entry1967575

newtype5, on Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:48 AM, said:

don't get me wrong, i'm not easily offended. and i'm not a person who looks for things to be offended by.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA