panamajoe Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 errrr... just a fast´n´maybe stupid question about Raiden: I remember reading somewhere that the Raiden in game music is great... but my Jag Raiden copy doesn´t have ANY kind of music, just some pretty poor sound FX... so, my question: Am i getting Alzheimer or is something wrong with my copy of Raiden?? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 errrr... just a fast´n´maybe stupid question about Raiden:I remember reading somewhere that the Raiden in game music is great... but my Jag Raiden copy doesn´t have ANY kind of music, just some pretty poor sound FX... so, my question: Am i getting Alzheimer or is something wrong with my copy of Raiden?? Thanks in advance! General tip - pressing '0' will most often toggle music. Try it, it might work (I don't know, I don't have Raiden...but hey ) Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy_fluck Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 I think the tunes sound great but the quality isnt that good, if that makes any sense. The tunes are quite catchy for the first few levels but i say the snes tunes sound better (better quality) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z026445 Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Great game nontheless, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Just to clarify, I pulled out my Raiden manual, and '0' is the music toggle. The music is ok, it's nothing that'll blow you away, but its substantial I guess. This is one of the Jags best games, and a cheap one too! Only thing negative I can say about it is that the lack of rapid fire sucks, and I don't have a pro-controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lais Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 I played this literally all night long at Unconventional 2001 (http://www.myatari.net/issues/sep2001/uc2k1.htm) and the lack of rapid fire didn't bother me at all, but I can say when I finished, my hands were aching so badly I couldn't move my fingers or pick things up for another half a day. If anything about Raiden sucks, it's the criminal waste of nearly half the screen with that massive score and status panel. I'm sure the Jaguar can handle a much larger and more impressive playfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwest_cdn Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Yeah the screen size really sucks, i figured the least they couuld of done was let you pick the screen layout.But other than that I like it. Of course I have to buy the turbo grafx version to do some comparisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajoe Posted June 2, 2003 Author Share Posted June 2, 2003 damn, im going crazy... i keep pressing "0" (and any other button on the pad) and nothing happens! just some boring FX when i hit an enemy. no sound, no tunes! strange... anyone ever seen (err.... heard..... errr.... NOT heard) this before?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z026445 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Yeah the screen size really sucks, i figured the least they couuld of done was let you pick the screen layout.But other than that I like it. Of course I have to buy the turbo grafx version to do some comparisions. Actually, the PSX version is probably cheaper and looks just as good. Plus it includes Raiden 1 and 2. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Yeah the screen size really sucks, i figured the least they couuld of done was let you pick the screen layout.But other than that I like it. Of course I have to buy the turbo grafx version to do some comparisions. Actually, the PSX version is probably cheaper and looks just as good. Plus it includes Raiden 1 and 2. Good stuff. I believe the Playstation version will cost 2-3 times as much, Raiden Project is a much sought after shooter, and one of the launch titles for PSX. I agree that Raiden Project is much better, but Jag Raiden was released years before that one was to be fair to Jag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy_fluck Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Actually to be honest the ps version of raiden shouldnt be better, they should be just as good as each other because they are translations of the arcade game, you'd think the jag has enough power to make a arcade perfect game but it isnt, there are less colors and the sound quality is definitly off. thats just my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Jag Raiden has more colors than the original It has some graphical improvements too, like some more detailed bitmaps and these 3d asteroids. Raide II would be great on the Jaguar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Well i have a stupid question about a pizza man pissing in my marinara sause: If a pizza guy pisses in my marinara sauce, what do i do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Actually to be honest the ps version of raiden shouldnt be better, they should be just as good as each other because they are translations of the arcade game, you'd think the jag has enough power to make a arcade perfect game but it isnt, there are less colors and the sound quality is definitly off. thats just my 2cents Maybe someone else can confirm this, but I remember that Raiden was originally being programmed for the Panther... and then ported to the Jaguar. Perhaps it would have been better if the game was programmed for the Jag from the ground up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Maybe someone else can confirm this, but I remember that Raiden was originally being programmed for the Panther... and then ported to the Jaguar. Perhaps it would have been better if the game was programmed for the Jag from the ground up... Wasn't that Trevor McFur? Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Maybe someone else can confirm this, but I remember that Raiden was originally being programmed for the Panther... and then ported to the Jaguar. Perhaps it would have been better if the game was programmed for the Jag from the ground up... Wasn't that Trevor McFur? Stone Both..., but again, I am going by memory from the way-back machine in my skull... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy_fluck Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 If it was infact originally programed for the panther wouldnt it still be arcade perfect? I mean the panther was supposed to be a pretty powerful system as well wasnt it? I dont know anything about the panther but all i know is that Raiden could've been better (Its far from bad, but still) cause its on the jag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 From what I remember, Raiden was actually ported from the Falcon, not the Panther. I know for a fact that it was originally in development for the Falcon, although I'm not sure if it was ever released. In any case, for the most part it was a quick and dirty port, mostly just to get another Jag title out in time for launch. I'm sure if more time had been taken with it, it would more likely rival any other home version in graphics. As it stands, I still think it's one of the best home versions available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ProToS] Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Hi, From what I remember, Raiden was actually ported from the Falcon, not the Panther. I know for a fact that it was originally in development for the Falcon, although I'm not sure if it was ever released. yes raiden for Falcon030 exist ( I have it ) but not officialy all bin are from year 1993 on this version it could be find on "underground" atari world on the past but now I dont know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Harlow Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Actually I have Raiden for the Falcon, ( well the first 4 or 5 levels). I put it on a CD that I irregularly compile for Falcon and ST owner with a couple of other Atari games that didn't see light of day. I acquired these when I distributed Llamazap and Dino Dudes for the Falcon... and I got some cells for Steel Talons which might make a nice prize for the JagFest... ( thanks for the train of thought) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajoe Posted June 5, 2003 Author Share Posted June 5, 2003 Well i have a stupid question about a pizza man pissing in my marinara sause: If a pizza guy pisses in my marinara sauce, what do i do? ahh.. Willard once again has forgotten to take his pills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Hello! The Screen-layout of Raiden remembers me on the ST-version of PacMania: Because the ST had no blitter chip, all scrolling had to be done in software, and to be able to get a good frame-rate when doing so the scroll-area was reduce to about 60% of the screen. Regards Matthias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I acquired these when I distributed Llamazap and Dino Dudes for the Falcon... and I got some cells for Steel Talons which might make a nice prize for the JagFest... ( thanks for the train of thought) Sound great! (if it's 'cels' you mean, as in single frames from animation) Seems JagFest is going to have everything a Jag owner could want present, will be an excellent event! Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 From what I remember, Raiden was actually ported from the Falcon, not the Panther. I know for a fact that it was originally in development for the Falcon, although I'm not sure if it was ever released. In any case, for the most part it was a quick and dirty port, mostly just to get another Jag title out in time for launch. I'm sure if more time had been taken with it, it would more likely rival any other home version in graphics. As it stands, I still think it's one of the best home versions available. So, is the Jaguar port of Raiden then actually a port of the Falcon Port? Or was it developed independently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 So, is the Jaguar port of Raiden then actually a port of the Falcon Port? Or was it developed independently? From what I remember, Raiden was actually ported from the Falcon, not the Panther. That's to the best of my recollection. My guess would be it probably shared much of the same code base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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