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#1 PuddWakkr OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 11:22 AM

If anyone is interested there is a pretty good N64 emulator available for the Xbox. Just got it today and have only got to test one game but mario64 works near flawlessly. Some of the larger games like Golden Eye and Conkers don't work on it yet so I can't disconnect the N64 from my TV yet but it looks like it won't be too long. I believe that most games like Tetris and Mario Kart 64 works as well but have'nt got a chance to try it. If you have the ability to put this EMU on your Xbox I suggest you try it out it's pretty slick.

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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 11:26 AM

http://www.atariage....pic.php?t=27461 :roll:

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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 11:36 AM

I'm not asking for or telling people where to get illegal ROMS. I own a N64 and a copy of Mario64. If all you want to discuss in the Emulation forum is Atari emulation then that is fine.

* listens to crickets chirp in empty forum *

For those that are interested I still say pick a copy of this EMU up it really is fun.

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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 11:48 AM

ehh.. so far the only thing I see working is Mario64.. everything else seems to fail at one point or another or is just too slow. I'd wait it out a little longer, this still needs more work.

Project64 on the pc though.. is pretty damn good so I have high hopes for this one :)

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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 11:55 AM

It's a first build and I think it's just as fun trying to get the games to run as it is playing them :)

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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 12:11 PM

I use Project64 as my Nintendo64 emulator, and ive got Mario 64 and its running a little buggie.

But gee its runs damn slow for my PC.
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Posted Mon Jun 9, 2003 1:48 PM

Speaking of N64 emulation....

Besides EBay, does any one know where I can still buy a Voodoo chipset based gfx card. Voodoo II or better.

Don't know what it is exactly, but as far as PC's go, most N64 emulators seem to work best with a Voodoo card. They seem to have better fire & fog effects.

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Posted Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:38 AM

I'VE GOT A QUESTION:

I use my keyboard for NES & S-NES emulation. Can I use the keyboard for N64, or do I need to use the N64's analog controller?

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Posted Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:47 AM

The first N64 emus used Glide which was the exclusive 3d system in Voodoo cards. But these days if you computer is P3 or better you don't need to downgrade to a Voodoo card, they make several Glide wrappers to use the real early emus, and the better, new ones use OpenGL and Direct3D which is included in all modern video cards.

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Posted Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:49 AM

ElectricTroy said:

I'VE GOT A QUESTION:

I use my keyboard for NES & S-NES emulation.  Can I use the keyboard for N64, or do I need to use the N64's analog controller?


Are you talking about PC emulation? The keyboard is fine, you really couldn't use the N64 controller without an adapter. Most of the emu's have good gamepad support if you want to try a PC gamepad like Gravis.

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Posted Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:41 PM

I know a store that sells N64--->PC adapters. I guess a gamepad would be "good enough" although it wouldn't be as easy to use...buttons in the wrong place, no Z-trigger, et cetera.

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Posted Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:56 PM

Unless you've played thousands of hours of N64 (and who hasn't with Mario Kart or Super Mario ;) ) It would be just as easy to map the Z button to any of the gamepad buttons and after a few games you'll get used to it.

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Posted Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:04 PM

oesii said:

The first N64 emus used Glide which was the exclusive 3d system in Voodoo cards.  But these days if you computer is P3 or better you don't need to downgrade to a Voodoo card, they make several Glide wrappers to use the real early emus, and the better, new ones use OpenGL and Direct3D which is included in all modern video cards.

Not to sound disrespectful or snotty, but thats really matter of opinion, nor does it answer my question.

I'm using a P3-650, OC'ed to 780, and a 32meg AGP SIS300 svga card.

I have yet to find a Glide wrapper that isn't slow and emulates all the features correctly. So those are not really an option.

As far as newer emu's, I'm not really happy with them. They are nice and fast now, and make for playable emulation. But I'm not happy with the GFX, which do not look as good as what I used to get from my old voodoo card.

While that is probably a result of my current SVGA card, I'm happy with it, and am not changing it. I would rather have a another newer voodoo passthrough card.

So my question remains open.

Thanx.

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:59 AM

Artlover said:

Not to sound disrespectful or snotty, but thats really matter of opinion, nor does it answer my question.  

I'm using a P3-650, OC'ed to 780, and a 32meg AGP SIS300 svga card.

I have yet to find a Glide wrapper that isn't slow and emulates all the features correctly. So those are not really an option.

As far as newer emu's, I'm not really happy with them. They are nice and fast now, and make for playable emulation. But I'm not happy with the GFX, which do not look as good as what I used to get from my old voodoo card.  

While that is probably a result of my current SVGA card, I'm happy with it, and am not changing it. I would rather have a another newer voodoo passthrough card.

So my question remains open.  

Thanx.

I'll have to look, but I think I still have my Voodoo3 (AGP) around somewhere if you're interested. I still use my Voodoo5 to this day. :)

Brett (smsforce)

P.S. I got the Voodoo5 off of ebay. :)

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:58 AM

Artlover said:


Not to sound disrespectful or snotty, but thats really matter of opinion, nor does it answer my question.  

I'm using a P3-650, OC'ed to 780, and a 32meg AGP SIS300 svga card.

I have yet to find a Glide wrapper that isn't slow and emulates all the features correctly. So those are not really an option.

As far as newer emu's, I'm not really happy with them. They are nice and fast now, and make for playable emulation. But I'm not happy with the GFX, which do not look as good as what I used to get from my old voodoo card.  

While that is probably a result of my current SVGA card, I'm happy with it, and am not changing it. I would rather have a another newer voodoo passthrough card.

So my question remains open.  

Thanx.



I didn't realize you were concerned about image quality but are the emulators that came out in '98 or '99 for the Voodoo cards really an graphical improvement? They might be I just don't remember because I've always gone for fast, playable emulation.

And now I'm spoiled with a fast Athlon XP and a Geforce2, so sorry if I didn't directly answer your question but when I said modern video cards I was assuming modern Geforces or Ati's.

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:01 AM

smsforce2k3 said:


I'll have to look, but I think I still have my Voodoo3 (AGP) around somewhere if you're interested. I still use my Voodoo5 to this day. :)

Brett (smsforce)

P.S. I got the Voodoo5 off of ebay. :)



Voodoo 3's are standalone cards, the passthrough cards that work alongside your existing video card are the Voodoo 1 and 2. The V2 has some sweet SLI action if you have two of them :) That was really expensive back in the day :!:

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:02 AM

Whoops forgot to answer your question, AL:

If you go to www.pricewatch.com and type in Voodoo 2 you'll find a couple of places still selling them for cheap, $17?

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:15 PM

[quote=oesii][/quote]

I didn't realize you were concerned about image quality but are the emulators that came out in '98 or '99 for the Voodoo cards really an graphical improvement? They might be I just don't remember because I've always gone for fast, playable emulation.

And now I'm spoiled with a fast Athlon XP and a Geforce2, so sorry if I didn't directly answer your question but when I said modern video cards I was assuming modern Geforces or Ati's.[/quote]

Well, not having a GeForce or modern ATI card, I can't say 100% that they wouldn't provide for good gfx translation. :ponder:

I am remembering back when UltraHLE came out. I had a 8meg AGP RageII and VooDoo1 card. Zelda ran around 60% full speed and looked almost exactly like my real N64. Because of the speed issues thou, I lost interest. I ended up taking out the voodoo card when I put my SCSI in (didn't have any more empty pci slots). Later I upgraded to the 32meg AGP Sis300 card, and while it was better then the RageII, it still just couldn't handle N64 emulation very well. :(

I'll admit, Sis300 is not exactly the best chipset, but I'm on a budget. :|

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:16 PM

oesii said:

Whoops forgot to answer your question, AL:

If you go to www.pricewatch.com and type in Voodoo 2 you'll find a couple of places still selling them for cheap, $17?

Cool, thanks. I'm going to check them out.

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Posted Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:23 PM

oesii said:

sorry if I didn't directly answer your question

No problem.

I'm sorry if I seemed unthankful.

I'm still mad at RUN magazine from 1986, when I wrote them a letter asking for advice on how to use a specific programming technique, and the basicly answered me saying (paraphrasing here): "Thats not the way to do things. Do it like this, and here are some resources for doing it this way". :x

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