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Buyer beware, this is the PAL version !
Started by CPUWIZ, Jun 14 2003 1:32 PM
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:32 PM
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:35 PM
How comes that you know this is PAL? is different color of label or where can find at the picture?
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:39 PM
The label scan in the database is wrong, that's why I am pointing it out. The label looks like the box scan !
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:42 PM
Here, I just dug up the picture of the one I sold recently, this is the NTSC version. 
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 1:50 PM
Thanks head me up about two different labels between NTSC and PAL carts!
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:04 PM
That picture is not one that he took. That is a picture that I took of a PAL cart and previously asked in the Atari 2600 forum if all the pal carts had that label. I later used the photo to auction off the PAL cart on ebay.
He has previously sold it or has more, see this auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3028153100
I specifically emailed him about the previous auction and asked if the cart that would be sent if I bid and one was the one in the picture. I wanted to see what he would say because if he said it was the actual picture, I was going to point out that he was using my photo. He never responded to the email, probably remembered where he got the photo and recognized the name from the email.
He has previously sold it or has more, see this auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3028153100
I specifically emailed him about the previous auction and asked if the cart that would be sent if I bid and one was the one in the picture. I wanted to see what he would say because if he said it was the actual picture, I was going to point out that he was using my photo. He never responded to the email, probably remembered where he got the photo and recognized the name from the email.
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 4:38 PM
I had the same exact experience:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3029523139
The auction was over and he immeadiately offered it to me for 38.89
I also asked about the cart and he said it was the one in the picture. One thing that I thought was odd. The high bidder was from Philly and he is too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3029523139
The auction was over and he immeadiately offered it to me for 38.89
I also asked about the cart and he said it was the one in the picture. One thing that I thought was odd. The high bidder was from Philly and he is too.
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 4:50 PM
JCroniger said:
I had the same exact experience:
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3029523139
The auction was over and he immeadiately offered it to me for 38.89
I also asked about the cart and he said it was the one in the picture. One thing that I thought was odd. The high bidder was from Philly and he is too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3029523139
The auction was over and he immeadiately offered it to me for 38.89
I also asked about the cart and he said it was the one in the picture. One thing that I thought was odd. The high bidder was from Philly and he is too.
Probably shill bidding.
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Posted Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:03 PM
That's what I thought too. I let the '2nd chance offer' pass.
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Posted Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:42 AM
I think I have seen the NTSC Lable style too one time for a PAL Version. When I not wrong sold in Australia. But maybe the seller has make a mistake and it was a NTSC Version.
Normaly the PAL Lables look like this in the auction, and the NTSC Lable like the picture from CPUWIZ.
Normaly the PAL Lables look like this in the auction, and the NTSC Lable like the picture from CPUWIZ.
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Posted Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:57 AM
CPUWIZ said:
Here, I just dug up the picture of the one I sold recently, this is the NTSC version.
Did I buy that from you?
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Posted Sun Jun 15, 2003 12:05 PM
Ed Siegler said:
Did I buy that from you?
If memory serves me correct, you won yours from Sly on eBay.
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:14 PM
kheffington said:
That picture is not one that he took. That is a picture that I took of a PAL cart and previously asked in the Atari 2600 forum if all the pal carts had that label. I later used the photo to auction off the PAL cart on ebay.
He has previously sold it or has more, see this auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3028153100
I specifically emailed him about the previous auction and asked if the cart that would be sent if I bid and one was the one in the picture. I wanted to see what he would say because if he said it was the actual picture, I was going to point out that he was using my photo. He never responded to the email, probably remembered where he got the photo and recognized the name from the email.
He has previously sold it or has more, see this auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...item=3028153100
I specifically emailed him about the previous auction and asked if the cart that would be sent if I bid and one was the one in the picture. I wanted to see what he would say because if he said it was the actual picture, I was going to point out that he was using my photo. He never responded to the email, probably remembered where he got the photo and recognized the name from the email.
Whoa...I had no idea you guys were in here talking about my auctions. I picked up this cart for $15 at a yard sale, took a pic, and put it up on EBay, for God's sake. I never received an email about the former auction from ANYONE. Want to see more pics? Email me and you'll get 'em. I didn't steal anyone's pictures, thank you very much, and I very much resent the fact that you think I did. Want to see a picture of me standing on my head holding the cart in the auction? It can be arranged. Thanks also for lablelling me as a crook and a thief for just trying to sell a cart - I guess 61 positives and no negs on EBay mean nothing to you fine collectors.
By the way, this IS the second time I'm listing this cart. The previous high bidder (who happened to be from the same state as me - gee, I MUST be a crook) told me in no uncertain terms that he basically had no intentions of paying for this auction (this is like the 3rd time I got screwed trying to sell a 2600 cart, go figure). Instead of going through all the crap involved with an NPB, I made a second-chance offer. And, the picture in this auction is the same as the first auction, I just shrunk it.
Sheesh...
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:17 PM
It's still the PAL version and apparently untested. 
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:24 PM
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Want to see a picture of me standing on my head holding the cart in the auction? It can be arranged.
Now that would sell
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:26 PM
sku_u said:
Agent57 said:
Want to see a picture of me standing on my head holding the cart in the auction? It can be arranged.
Now that would sell
Well, at least that auction woudn't be blacklisted for no reason.
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:42 PM
CPUWIZ said:
It's still the PAL version and apparently untested.
Auction listing was modified to reflect that it's a PAL cart. I did test the cart and both sides worked. However, my screen did not roll and the colors did not look "off", so the thought of this being a PAL cart (or the fact that a PAL version even existed!) did not occur to me. I certainly wasn't trying to dupe anyone here...
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:01 AM
MattyXB said:
I think I have seen the NTSC Lable style too one time for a PAL Version. When I not wrong sold in Australia. But maybe the seller has make a mistake and it was a NTSC Version.
Good point, missed your post the first time 'round.
Actually, if you want to get technical about it, I make no claim whatsoever in my auction that it's an NTSC cart. I would expect people who bid on my auctions (or feel the need to "warn" other people about them) to know what the hell they are looking at.
And anyway...are BOTH versions of this cart not rare? I see nothing in the rarity guide on this site that implies that a PAL version is more common.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:17 AM
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And anyway...are BOTH versions of this cart not rare? I see nothing in the rarity guide on this site that implies that a PAL version is more common.
I understand that you feel attacked and want to defend yourself, but you are making waaaaay to big a deal out of this. If everyone in the Atari collecting community felt that this was bunk, you wouldn't have a bid on the cart, correct?
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