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How to make atari800win work, have tried all i can think of!


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#1 Derek OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:53 PM

I have had many people try, including someone who lives off programs he has written and sells on the internet!
It is this emulator: Atari800Win
An Atari 800/800XL/130XL/5200 emulator for Win32

No one can figure out where the little atariosb.rom and others needed go in the settings under "Atari" then "cartridges" and "hardware". I have moved these "disk image" files, the little 1k file needed, moved the Rom's around. Nothing gets the damn thing running beyond it saying "Stopped". Can someone tell me where to put these damn files so it works. We all have wasted so many hours on this that it is nutty to delete it all now and give up. (Yes, I read the text files that come with it, as well as the instructions from Back in time.net...not particularly helpful as they only tell you what you need, not where to place the files once your wild goose chase is completed.)

Thank you in advance, Derek.

If there is another emulator that is simply easier to use (non-DOS) tell me and I will not bother with this confusing mess!

#2 Big Player OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:36 PM

Those ROM files are system BIOS and don't go into the cartridge slot. You just need to put them in the same directory as 800win. If you have any cartridge ROM's, they go under this cartridge menu.

Which type of hardware are you emulating? Make sure you have the system ROM for the type of machine you are emulating. For the 800XL, put the drive path to the file: C:800winatarixl.rom

I just use 800win to run the old type in games from ANTIC magazine, so I have the cart type "Use BASIC" selected and show the path to the ATARIBAS.ROM file.

Then I keep all my ROM's in the same 800win directory and I map the virtual hard disk to the same folder. Then I run the games using the command RUN "H1:REACTOR.BAS" at the READY prompt to run the games.

I only started using this program last week, so I'm not an expert. Try different display settings as well. I had to mess with a few until I got the best looking one.

Just thought I'd try to help. Good luck.

#3 Nukey Shay ONLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:09 PM

All of Atari800Win's files from the emulator zipfile should go in the emulator's base folder (let's call it c:atari800 for example). The system roms (atarixl.rom, atariosb.rom, ataribas.rom, 5200.rom) can go in any folder you want. It doesn't matter where you put them. I just keep mine in the same folder as Atari800Win.
What you need to do is run the emulator, and when it crashes change the settings so that it can find these roms (pick Atari at the top and select Roms...or press alt-R). In that menu, you can press the on-screen buttons at the left to browse over to where the .rom files are...you need to do each one seperately.

Again, it does not matter where you put them, what matters is that you browse to them in Atari800Win's setup.

Once the roms are located, you can hit shift-F5 to reboot the emulator. You can select disk images (like dos25.atr) by using alt-D. This is like you had put a floppy disk into a drive...in other words, you can swap disks by using alt-D if you need to DURING A GAME. It will not "reboot" the system on it's own. Again, these disk images can be in any folder on your computer. By using alt-D, you just browse over to the disk that you want to insert.

Hard drive files cannot be accessed unless you have the hard drive patch active. This is a little checkmark that is placed under Atari->Options. When this option is selected, you can load individual files from your computer. This is similar to using disk images, except that the physical space of an entire disk (sectors, directory, empty sectors) is not stored in the file. Why is this important? For one thing, it's a super-speedy way of "typing" in a program. If the program is already saved on your PC as a text file, you can use ENTER to load it into the emulated Atari. Remember back in the day when you wished that some gadget would type those magazine programs in for you? Here it is :) (use a scanner to grab the pages, convert the scan to text, ENTER it into the emulator). Anyway, the folders that are accessed by using the hard drive function are selected by using alt-H and browsing over to the folders. Think of these selections as being HUGE floppy disks :)

Cartridges that are .rom/.bin files can be selected by using alt-C. As usual, you browse over to the one you want. You do not need to use this when loading the Basic or OS cartridges...those are already selected in the menu I already mentioned up top. You can disable the Basic cartridge when booting by checking off that option in the Atari->options menu.

Naturally, mixing two different types of hardwares (like loading a 5200 cartridge into an emulated 130XE) will crash the emulator. If this happens, just go back and select the proper machine type or file.

#4 Big Player OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:55 PM

Thanks for providing the better explaination, Nukey. I just kept messing around with it until I got it to work. I had to go back and check how I set up 800win to try to help.

To save further work, those ANTIC magazine programs can be dowloaded here.

http://www.atarimaga...e/software.html




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