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#1 NE146 OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 4:21 AM

Hmmm....

http://www.msnbc.com...0dm=C21BT&cp1=1

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 4:38 AM

read the actical and they are not Discontinuing the GameCube only stoping prodution for a while.......

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 6:30 AM

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Nintendo’s mission is to develop simple games that anyone can enjoy, and by doing so bring back those people who have given up playing games into the market.

Boy...the next thing they'll be announcing is the return to cartridge format. After that, it will be a race to see who can come out with the first 16-bit console, 8-bit, etc. A regression of sorts... :)

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 7:11 AM

Anyway, lets not forget that we're reading this 'news' on a Microsoft website :ponder:

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 8:22 AM

I'll buy a GC if it hits the $50 price tag. If they are bringing a new console out next year I should be able to get a cube cheap :D

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 9:08 AM

I'm gonna start saving some money for the drop in game prices that will follow this.

A prediction: Xmas season: GC games all $20 and less.

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 9:16 AM

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Nintendo’s mission is to develop simple games that anyone can enjoy, and by doing so bring back those people who have given up playing games into the market.  


Boy...the next thing they'll be announcing is the return to cartridge format. After that, it will be a race to see who can come out with the first 16-bit console, 8-bit, etc. A regression of sorts...  


Isn't more simplistic games what we've been whining about?? this is good news i think, since the market is overcrowded with pointlessly complex boring games

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 10:21 AM

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Nintendo’s mission is to develop simple games that anyone can enjoy, and by doing so bring back those people who have given up playing games into the market.

Boy...the next thing they'll be announcing is the return to cartridge format. After that, it will be a race to see who can come out with the first 16-bit console, 8-bit, etc. A regression of sorts... :)
Actually, what alarms me is that that might imply an emphasis on handhelds.

Or, given your regression theory...maybe a return to Game and Watch?

Anyway, I'm gonna keep rooting for Nintendo until I'm convinced that the other consoles really GET multiplayer gaming, ala Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Monkey Ball.

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 6:27 PM

liveinabin said:

Anyway, lets not forget that we're reading this 'news' on a Microsoft website :ponder:

What the hell does that have to do with it? I'm sure you could go to Nintendo's website and get the same information. Or call them on the phone....

Look out, dear, I think your bias is showing...

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 6:36 PM

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liveinabin said:

Anyway, lets not forget that we're reading this 'news' on a Microsoft website :ponder:

What the hell does that have to do with it? I'm sure you could go to Nintendo's website and get the same information. Or call them on the phone....

Look out, dear, I think your bias is showing...

You MS lover :roll:

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 6:54 PM

Don't start making prophesies about the Gamecube's death yet... they're stopping production, but the system will still be sold in stores for quite some time, and games will continue to be made.

However, this is starting to look like the same situation that got me to buy a Dreamcast...

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 7:00 PM

bias? nah, dave will play anything, hes a dynamic gamer. Plus, he didnt say well this is a lie he just pointed out that microsoft owns some of msnbc, just pointing out a fact!

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 9:35 PM

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I told you so! :P

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 10:02 PM

From a business standpoint, it only makes sense to stop manufacturing a product when you have a surplus. Let's stop reading more into this than that one fact.

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 10:32 PM

well, us sega fans tried to reassure ourselves with the same thoughts when the DC was on the decline. IMHO, Nintendo bowing out is nowhere near as catastrophic as Sega stopping the Dreamcast though, im just pretty sure now that this upcoming round of consoles will not have me as a customer, unless the price is a virtual steal, and there are more than a handful of must own titles.

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 10:39 PM

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bias? nah, dave will play anything, hes a dynamic gamer. Plus, he didnt say well this is a lie he just pointed out that microsoft owns some of msnbc, just pointing out a fact!

I wasn't talking about Dave ;) :D

Oh and anyways, back on topic - I'm pretty sure that this is not the first time a video game co. has stopped production for a short time to get rid of surplus. Just a good business decision really. Did anyone else hear that Nintendo is working with Arcadespy(?) for online gaming? I read this a month or so ago and never saw anything else about it. Wonder if that's the simplicity they are talking about - maybe easy party games online? What I can't fugure out is why they didn't have a strategy before releasing the GC :? Especially just coming off the N64. Yes I do know that the N64 actually sold more units than the SNES but it got it's ass handed to it by the PS. Whoever does the research for them oughta be shot by now :)

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 10:52 PM

I guess it makes sense. Why keep making more if you have enough to sell now? It does worry me a little, though. I don't swear by any one system, but I don't want to see the last all-gaming company go the Sega route (unless it's the absolute last resort).

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Posted Fri Aug 8, 2003 10:58 PM

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TOKYO, Aug. 7 — Nintendo is to press the pause button on production of its Game Cube consoles while it clears inventory of unsold machines, the company’s president said on Thursday. But Satoru Iwata promised the struggling games company was developing a radical new product to be announced next year — however he gave few details save to say it would be a departure from mainstream gaming consoles “that will have a big impact on the world”.

Wonder what it'll be. I doubt it'd be a new console OR a new Handheld. They may wanna beat everyone, but they wouldn't screw us all THAT easilly.

Still.. If this is Nintendo we're talking about. The Nintendo that only wants to make machines that play games, and not entertainment centers or TV's. Just game machines.. Hmm.. well.. it can only mean one thing. They're bringing back the Virtual Boy! ;) :P :lol:

Who knows? They're Nintendo..

Edit: Just thinking randomly here.

What else can they do that would "have a big impact on the world"? All I can think about is trying to beat the Phantom to the game by providing downloadable games for a fee on the GameCube. They have a broadband adapter available. All you need is a network to connect to and a special disc to use when playing them. But where to save them? That's what the other serial port's for. There are three. One for the Modem, one for the GBP and one left open. HD add-on maybe?

Of course that's just speculation at this point though it'd be a surprising move on Nintendo's part. I mean, the GCN is the first console to actually release an add-on to the bottom of the console in the US. (The GBP) Every other US Nintendo console had a port on the bottom but they never got used in the US until the GCN. So maybe they are capable of something like this.

What did I just say? I don't know.

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 8:14 AM

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From a business standpoint, it only makes sense to stop manufacturing a product when you have a surplus.  Let's stop reading more into this than that one fact.

Exactly, I could be wrong, but didn't MS at one point either halt or slow production on the Xbox?

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 10:30 AM

Anyone who says this isn't "necessarily" the end of the GC is BLIND! Stopping production is only one measily step away from being discontinued and has happened all to often in the past: 3DO, Jaguar, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast just to name some that this happened to in the past decade. By Christmas it will be discontinued. The next step is that you will very quickly see development houses stoppong development and games being cancelled, etc. It's happened far too often not to know this to be true. As far as I'm concerned, the big N is finally reaping what they have sowed for a long time and are going down console-wise just like 3DO, Atari and Sega before them.

It's very sad in a sense, not because I like Nintendo, I could care less about them, but because the huge multi-national Corp. (Sony&Microsoft) are now in control and that will eventually lead to a lack of competition and inferior consoles just like the PC's of today (talking about windows and how crappy it is compared to the OS's of lore from Commodore, Atari and Apple). I long for the days of proprietary computers and consoles and the competition that made them great.

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 10:45 AM

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But Satoru Iwata promised the struggling games company was developing a radical new product to be announced next year — however he gave few details save to say it would be a departure from mainstream gaming consoles “that will have a big impact on the world”.

Purely online gaming maybe?

I'll tell you this - whatever this thing is, it had better be backward compatible :twisted:

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 11:09 AM

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Anyone who says this isn't "necessarily" the end of the GC is BLIND!
We'll see.

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As far as I'm concerned, the big N is finally reaping what they have sowed for a long time and are going down console-wise just like 3DO, Atari and Sega before them.
Ok Captain Schadenfreude, what have they sowed for a long time?
Relying on cartridges for the N64? Not doing enough to court third parties? Depending on their core franchises too much? Not pumping out enough first party shovelware? I don't think any of those are such terrible crimes.

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It's very sad in a sense, not because I like Nintendo, I could care less about them, but because the huge multi-national Corp. (Sony&Microsoft) are now in control and that will eventually lead to a lack of competition and inferior consoles just like the PC's of today (talking about windows and how crappy it is compared to the OS's of lore from Commodore, Atari and Apple). I long for the days of proprietary computers and consoles and the competition that made them great.
I dunno, PCs got pretty cheap when the became commodities that anyone could clone. The trouble is that the "standard" that emerged sucked for gaming...think EGA (or CGA!) graphics with just a little PC speaker and no controller, or one of those stupid Apple II style sticks. Imagine how much cooler life would be if Amiga had been the standard.

Anyway, if Nintendo switched to only having a handheld console and supporting other consoles, the only thing that would worry me is an emphasis on networking gaming over "party" gaming. I'm not too inclined to go looking for random strangers online who may or may not be cheating and who might be spending an umilimted amount of time practicing, but I would like to make sure I have great "get folks together on the couch" games to play.

Also, I think Nintendo's hardware is the most visually attractive out there.

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 1:14 PM

[quote] As far as I'm concerned, the big N is finally reaping what they have sowed for a long time and are going down console-wise just like 3DO, Atari and Sega before them. [/quote]
Ok Captain Schadenfreude, what have they sowed for a long time?
Relying on cartridges for the N64? Not doing enough to court third parties? Depending on their core franchises too much? Not pumping out enough first party shovelware? I don't think any of those are such terrible crimes.

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None of the above. I'm speaking of their shady business practices of the past ONE esample: threatening developers so that they would only make games for Nintendo, which Sony and Microsoft are now doing to them. Atari and Sega both were effected by this and had lawsuits against Nintendo at various times for things such as this. Nintendo did some VERY underhanded things in the past and now bigger companies are doing the same to them.

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 1:30 PM

Two wrongs make a right, eh?

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Posted Sat Aug 9, 2003 5:49 PM

Is it true that the next Final Fantasy installment will be GameCube only? If so, that should surely boost some sales.




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