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[DeV0]

I am normally the one to nag about sony products being 3rd rate junk. I gotta say that im pleasantly surprised with the PsOne though. I bought one and had it chipped since my 1001 playstation is getting too old to use. Some of my discs are scratched beyond recognition but this little machine has no problems reading any of them.

I dont want to start a console debate but rather hear others opinions on this little machine. Mine are, great machine that chugs along nicely, small and easy to get around. Only gripe is the cheap lid.

Has sony gotten it right? or too little too late,,,,,,,,,,

[kisrael]

DeV0 said:

I am normally the one to nag about sony products being 3rd rate junk. I gotta say that im pleasantly surprised with the PsOne though. I bought one and had it chipped since my 1001 playstation is getting too old to use. Some of my discs are scratched beyond recognition but this little machine has no problems reading any of them.

I dont want to start a console debate but rather hear others opinions on this little machine. Mine are, great machine that chugs along nicely, small and easy to get around. Only gripe is the cheap lid.

Has sony gotten it right? or too little too late,,,,,,,,,,

It's cute alright. And seems to work well enough, though all my discs are new (I got a PSOne and then a lot of stuff all at once...though I probably shoulda just held out for the PS2)

But too little, too late, I don't think so. I don't think Sony was trying to "save" the original PS, just sell some more systems, and I think from that point of view it was probably a success. Esp. with the little screens you could get for it.

[Brian R.]

Seems like case changing has been a frequently used method of attempting to extend a game console's life, some more successful than others.

Not thinking of clones or pirates, but official changes made by the manufacturer. Same guts, different body.

Trying to think of game systems that have gone through a metamorphosis...

= Atari 2600 to the junior
= 5200 was considered but not actually done
= NES to the top loader
= Did the Intellivision undergo a case change, or were there internal changes, too?
= And the Playstation, to PSOne.

Any others?

[kisrael]

Brian R. said:

Trying to think of game systems that have gone through a metamorphosis...

= Atari 2600 to the junior
= 5200 was considered but not actually done
= NES to the top loader
= Did the Intellivision undergo a case change, or were there internal changes, too?
= And the Playstation, to PSOne.

Any others?

-Gameboy to Gameboy Pocket
-GBA to GBA SP, though the backlight complicates things
-SNES
-Didn't Genesis go through a couple of revisions?

[King Atari]

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= Did the Intellivision undergo a case change, or were there internal changes, too?

The second variation wouldn't let you play Donkey Kong, so yes, I think there were internal changes. I think they were fixed in the third model, which was the same as the original INTV, only with a different name.

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-Didn't Genesis go through a couple of revisions?

Yep.

Model 1 was the one with headphone jack, it actually had a little volume switch on it (though I only got it recently, I always thought this one looked coolest). Then there was Model 2, which is by far the most common one, then there was Model 3, which was a mini version of the Genesis. I think it lacked some fearures and didn't playh certain games, but since I don't have one, I don't know

[Brian R.]

How could I forget the Genesis case changes? Doh!

[JB]

King Atari said:

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-Didn't Genesis go through a couple of revisions?

Yep.

Model 1 was the one with headphone jack, it actually had a little volume switch on it (though I only got it recently, I always thought this one looked coolest). Then there was Model 2, which is by far the most common one, then there was Model 3, which was a mini version of the Genesis. I think it lacked some fearures and didn't playh certain games, but since I don't have one, I don't know

The Model 3 lacks the Z80(as I understand it), expansion bus, and external processor support. This breaks about 3 games(and if my goofing around with GENS is any indication, causes sound glitches in many more), the SegaCD, the 32x, and the Power Base Converter.

It also looks like a festering boil.

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Side note found while digging info up...
Majesco was planning to re-release the Saturn!?!?!? Why didn't the sons of daughters do it?!?!?!?!?! (yeah, yeah, expensive hardware...)

[Brian R.]

[quote="JB"][quote=King Atari]
[quote]-Didn't Genesis go through a couple of revisions?[/quote]

Yep.

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Side note found while digging info up...
Majesco was planning to re-release the Saturn!?!?!? Why didn't the sons of daughters do it?!?!?!?!?! (yeah, yeah, expensive hardware...)[/quote]

I wonder how reliable that piece of hardware would be? When the Ames department store chain was going out of business, I looked into picking up a Majesco-made Game Gear for cheap. I wound up not buying one at all. When I opened one, the entire front plate over the screen wasn't attached to the unit!

[Starscream]

Turbo Grafx and 3DO had case changes too

[kisrael]

Starscream said:

Turbo Grafx and 3DO had case changes too

Heh, at least with the vision of its multi-manufacturer strategy, the 3DO was practically nuthin' BUT case changes... (How many versions were there in the end? Maybe not that many?)

[ubersaurus]

King Atari said:

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= Did the Intellivision undergo a case change, or were there internal changes, too?

The second variation wouldn't let you play Donkey Kong, so yes, I think there were internal changes. I think they were fixed in the third model, which was the same as the original INTV, only with a different name.

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-Didn't Genesis go through a couple of revisions?

Yep.

Model 1 was the one with headphone jack, it actually had a little volume switch on it (though I only got it recently, I always thought this one looked coolest). Then there was Model 2, which is by far the most common one, then there was Model 3, which was a mini version of the Genesis. I think it lacked some fearures and didn't playh certain games, but since I don't have one, I don't know

Don't forget the Nomad, or the CDX (which was the coolest genesis revision EVER). Built in CD, headphone jack is back, small size, you could use the power base convertor on it...32x support is limited (can't use the cd with it attached), but other then that, it's my pick for best genesis variant.

The Lynx had its revisions, too, as did the Channel F, and the master system had quite a few (mostly overseas).

[JB]

ubersaurus said:

Don't forget the Nomad, or the CDX (which was the coolest genesis revision EVER). Built in CD, headphone jack is back, small size, you could use the power base convertor on it...32x support is limited (can't use the cd with it attached), but other then that, it's my pick for best genesis variant.

Technically all Geneses except the Model 3 are Power Base compatible, as I understand it.

It's not going to be comfortable on a Nomad(too heavy), and the Gen2 requires you to remove about a square inch of plastic tab(my PBC is Gen2-modified), but only the Gen3 is truly incompatible(due to the missing Z80).

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The Lynx had its revisions, too, as did the Channel F, and the master system had quite a few (mostly overseas).

The Master System 2 was an American release(if South American)

As far as I know there's only one Master System in Japan.

2 if you count the Mark 3, which is 99% the same(just a matter of built-in FM synth instead of add-on).
The other "master systems" are older hardware that the Master System/Mark 3 was designed to be compatible with.

[justice_is_blind]

kisrael said:

Starscream said:

Turbo Grafx and 3DO had case changes too

Heh, at least with the vision of its multi-manufacturer strategy, the 3DO was practically nuthin' BUT case changes... (How many versions were there in the end? Maybe not that many?)

Panasonic FZ-1, Panasonic FZ-10, Goldstar, Sanyo, Creative Labs Blaster.At least the 3DO had more third party support than it's competitor.

[Trooper]

The SMS had a couple of different casings as well.

[Lemmi]

justice_is_blind said:

kisrael said:

Starscream said:

Turbo Grafx and 3DO had case changes too

Heh, at least with the vision of its multi-manufacturer strategy, the 3DO was practically nuthin' BUT case changes... (How many versions were there in the end? Maybe not that many?)

Panasonic FZ-1, Panasonic FZ-10, Goldstar, Sanyo, Creative Labs Blaster.At least the 3DO had more third party support than it's competitor.

Sanyo is the japanese 3DO
Sanyo

[DeV0]

Umm,, yeah Of course most consoles have been remade for cheaper production and advances in technology,,,,,,,

But, does anyone think the PsOne is a better system then the scph 100x series? I am asking this as my original PS failed so quickly,,,,, I cant think of a console that has been altered and turned out better then the original. I can play my scratched to shreds bio hazard 2 on this little machine, Ive had alot of sony failures but think this one is actually quality.