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[kisrael]

Got Half Life for PS2.

I'm not sure that I see why so many people are so charged up about it. Is it just because of Counter Strike? As far as I can tell, it's just a so so FPS-meets-survival horror kinda game...

[Bratwurst]

kisrael said:

it's just a so so FPS-meets-survival horror kinda game...

BLASPHEMY.

To truly understand the context, one must grasp it was originally a 1998 PC title.

[Gregory DG]

kisrael said:

I'm not sure that I see why so many people are so charged up about it.  Is it just because of Counter Strike?  As far as I can tell, it's just a so so FPS-meets-survival horror kinda game...

It's more popular on the PC for the fact that there are tons of mods. A quick check on GameSpy reveals that Half-Life servers outnumber ANY other game server by more than 10 times. (There are about 2,500 HL servers compared to about 200 Quake servers.)

I played all the way through the original game a few years back. What I liked about it was the scripted sequences and the mystique of Mr. X. I don't think any game before it played up the story so much as H-L did. (Unreal started to, but it quickly devolved into an ordinary shooter.)

In H-L there's always something new around the corner. Can't wait for Half-Life 2!

[oesii]

Bratwurst said:

kisrael said:

it's just a so so FPS-meets-survival horror kinda game...

BLASPHEMY.

To truly understand the context, one must grasp it was originally a 1998 PC title.

Very true, it was ahead of it's time in 1998, very atmospheric and engaging. I think the original Unreal was very much like this but a lot of people experience these games years later on a console port and don't get the original attraction.

[JB]

Gregory DG said:

I played all the way through the original game a few years back. What I liked about it was the scripted sequences and the mystique of Mr. X. I don't think any game before it played up the story so much as H-L did. (Unreal started to, but it quickly devolved into an ordinary shooter.)

Shogo, maybe?

Was Jedi Knight pre-Half-Life?

[kisrael]

Bratwurst said:

kisrael said:

it's just a so so FPS-meets-survival horror kinda game...

BLASPHEMY.

To truly understand the context, one must grasp it was originally a 1998 PC title.

Yeah....but I guess my heart is still with the sprite goodness of DOOM

[Fretwobbler]

Gregory DG said:

Can't wait for Half-Life 2!

Ohh yes!, only yesyterday was I donw at myu local store asking them for a release date. They said Sep 30th but the chances are this will slip

What I'm not looking forward to is having to buy a new PC to play it

[DeV0]

Ive never really gotten into halflife, it wasnt ahead of it time. For the uninitiated there are plenty of quake and q2 mods before CS which where awesome. I always thought q2 had a much better code for online gaming, halflife feels strange. CS to me is a game that kids played who had no experience from previous FPS games online which made it easy to get online and kick ass for a few hours.

I DO like HL, But overated it is,,,,,,,,,,

[Gregory DG]

Fretwobbler said:

What I'm not looking forward to is having to buy a new PC to play it

The've made it backward compatiable. Should work on a 700Mhz with a TNT2 card as the minimum spec.

[Clock]

I played HL Blueshift but thought it was so average, but after seeing HalfLife II, I now understand why everyone is talking about it. That looks simply amazing and well ahead of its time.

I am just going to have to get that for my Xbox.

[Bratwurst]

kisrael said:

Yeah....but I guess my heart is still with the sprite goodness of DOOM

DOOM's good too. I merely see Half Life as a milestone amongst the FPS timeline.

Wolf3D > DOOM > Duke3D > Half Life, etc etc.

[JB]

Fretwobbler said:

Gregory DG said:

Can't wait for Half-Life 2!

Ohh yes!, only yesyterday was I donw at myu local store asking them for a release date. They said Sep 30th but the chances are this will slip

Don't ask retailers. They're KNOWN for making numbers up.


The only credible sources are the publisher and developer.
And neither one is saying anything, at least, not on their websites.

[AtariDude]

Half Life was a great game in 1998 and it is still a fun game to play today although the ending is pretty hard. I would have loved to play a similar game like that one because Half Life 2 looks like it is going to require a mega system to run it right.

[Gregory DG]

AtariDude said:

Half Life 2 looks like it is going to require a mega system to run it right.

No doubt the faster the better, but the reqs are a 700Mhz with a DX6 TNT2 card as the minimum spec.

[AtariDude]

Exactly. That is the minimum and we know that it will not run right on a minimum system so the real minimum to be acceptable will be much higher. I can play Half Life on my system but no way will I be able to play Half Life 2 without getting a whole new computer.

[PuddWakkr]

Gregory DG said:

AtariDude said:

Half Life 2 looks like it is going to require a mega system to run it right.

No doubt the faster the better, but the reqs are a 700Mhz with a DX6 TNT2 card as the minimum spec.

You'll probably be running at 640x480 with bad looking textures. The whole point of the game is pushing the envelope and it hard to do that on a 700Mhz. I'm guessing to get decent performance they will recommend at least a 1.2 Ghz P4.

[Inky]

Half Life was the only FPS that didn't give me motion sickness since the original Wolf 3-d

[Gregory DG]

PuddWakkr said:

The whole point of the game is pushing the envelope and it hard to do that on a 700Mhz. I'm guessing to get decent performance they will recommend at least a 1.2 Ghz P4.

Actually, the graphics are done by the video card, so one can probably get away with it so long as they have a newer card. (Crosses fingers that my P3-800 with a Radeon 9700 Pro will be plenty.) Shoot, this Radeon did some amazing things with the 3dMark benchmark tests.

[Fretwobbler]

Gregory DG said:

The've made it backward compatiable. Should work on a 700Mhz with a TNT2 card as the minimum spec.

Sounds interesting. Ive got an 800MHz with a Geforce 4MX with 64MB DDR running on an AGP 4x motherboard. Hopefully I'll scrape through but i'm a bit worried. I only score ~3500 on 3DMark2001 and on the Botmatch benchmark you get with UT2003 I only score 20 FPS. HL2 can only be worse

[Fretwobbler]

DeV0 said:

it wasnt ahead of it time.

As a single player effort the narrative and atmosphere blew me away, still havent seen anything as good 5 years later...

[Gregory DG]

Fretwobbler said:

I only score ~3500 on 3DMark2001 and on the Botmatch benchmark you get with UT2003 I only score 20 FPS. HL2 can only be worse

Not necessarily. UT 2003 truly was a hog. If Valve is smart (and I'm confident they are) they will want to make it accessable to as many people as possible. I'm guessing it'll be possible to turn off a ton of graphic features which will bog down a slower system. Wonn't get 90FPS, but something playable will definitely be on the possible.

My one true hope is that they made it 100% Direct3D capable with Windows 2000. H-L1 has ESC Menu problems unless you use OpenGL.

[kisrael]

Fretwobbler said:

DeV0 said:

it wasnt ahead of it time.

As a single player effort the narrative and atmosphere blew me away, still havent seen anything as good 5 years later...

Admittedly I'm only halfway through, and it's kind of an interesting plot, but I was surprised that so much of it was obviously-puzzley. I keep thinking to myself "oh, a jumping puzzle" or "oh, a switch finding task".

I guess I like Metroid Prime a bit better for a lot of those factors...but it's a more recent game. And I'm a bit of a fanboy.

[DeV0]

I couldnt get to involved in the story,,, This game never surprised me except for it's huge fan base. I will be getting HL 2 though, believe it or not there are some people who think HL1 needed lots of improvement & i think we are about to see them. Hopefully gordon wont walk like he's had an accident in his pants when playing online like cs.

Oh, i DID really enjoy the ending and last 2 levels of HL. Top notch entertainment here.

[Hydian]

I played about an hour of Half Life itself, but my girlfriend and I both play Team Fortress Classic and several other mods online semi regularly. I only bought it for TFC as I'm not a big FPS player (Medal of Honor and Halo are the only ones I ever bothered to finish.)

[Fretwobbler]

Oh Shit!

They are the only words I can find, for NVidia users at least

[quote name='Valve]Prior to the release of Halflife 2' date=' Valve will release a benchmark demo of the game that allows future Halflife2-players a HL2-performance test of their System.[/quote']

Check out [url="http://www6.tomshardware.com/business/20030911/index.html"]This page[/url]. A guy from Valve, Gabe Newall, was giving a presentation about the problems the developers have been having with Half-Life 2's 3D engine.

After reading that page, I have to say the minimum specs discussed in this thread are nothing more than a sick joke

Check out this slide from the presentation, bearing in mind it was a 2.4GHz P4 with an 800MHz FSB.....

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