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[JagMX]

http://gamespydaily....ory.asp?id=5320

[CPUWIZ]

[JagMX]

whats wrong CPUWIZ?

[CPUWIZ]

AOL

[liquid_sky]

i guess your BBA is really going to be collecing dust now

[JB]

They ARE the largest ISP in the world.
Who would you EXPECT them to sign with?


I mean, they saw how well Sega.net did...

[JagMX]

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They ARE the largest ISP in the world.
Who would you EXPECT them to sign with?

a real ISP company - that provides great service

[JagMX]

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AOL

[liquid_sky]

they are also the most unreliable and conjested.. would you rather play games on a nintendo made network with high speeds no lag or:

would you rather try to play on AOL, while being overcome by lag caused by AOL users thinking that the "YOU HAVE ONE NEW EMAIL MESSAGE" banner ad is real and clicking on it nonstop, bewildered as to why thier inbox is still empty?

[JB]

It's not like you HAVE to use AOL to use the online features.

It's just the one they provide a signup disk for.


I didn't use Sega.net, I wouldn't use NintendoNet, and I won't use AOL.

I'll use Southwestern Bell, just like I do for my PC.

[Gregory DG]

Nintendo is just going where the money is. I think someone mentioned that AOL is the largest ISP in the world. Any other ISP has just a fraction of AOL's subscribers.

[vb_master]

Yes they have. I just wanna use my comcast connection, not America on Limeabeans, Lamas, OR Lard

[JB]

[quote name='vb_master]Yes they have. I just wanna use my comcast connection' date=' not America on Limeabeans, Lamas, OR Lard[/quote']It's not like they'll FORCE you to use AOL.

You could use a Dreamcast online without Sega.net.
You can use an XBox online without MSN.
You'll b able to use a GameCube online without AOL, now and forever.

[Jasoco]

Yeah, but until they get a whole TON of Online games on the GCN, who is even gonna THINK of paying for a subscription?

[JB]

[quote name='Jasoco]Yeah' date=' but until they get a whole TON of Online games on the GCN, who is even gonna THINK of paying for a subscription?[/quote']Nintendo lacks an online plan like Microsoft has. Well, lacks an online plan period, but...

Hell, MS is the only one of the 4 net-capable consoles to have a system like XBox Live.


Dreamcast, PS2 to date, and GameCube to date have all left the burden of providing online gaming services to the software companies.

Paying for a network subscription will likely remain unimaginable for non-XBox owners, because XBox will likely remain the only system WITH a network.

[PuddWakkr]

Aol controls most of the dial up customers but only has like 8% of the broadband. Their servers should be plenty fast for cube games cause nobody is on them.

[Agent X]

[quote name='JB]Dreamcast' date=' PS2 to date, and GameCube to date have all left the freedom of providing online gaming services to the software companies.[/quote']

I fixed your quote for you.

[quote name='JB]Paying for a network subscription will likely remain unimaginable for non-XBox owners' date=' because XBox will likely remain the only system WITH a network.[/quote']

The "open" Internet is a mighty big network as it is--about as big as you can get right now--and people alreay pay enough to their Internet service providers. Who would want to pay additional fees just to play games solely for a specific system, when every other major platform in existance doesn't feel it necessary to force their users to do so?

[joeybastard]

AOL should be destroyed. In general though I don't understand the allure of online gaming. I'd much rather invite a friend over, have few beers and play video games.

[PuddWakkr]

[quote name='Agent X]The "open" Internet is a mighty big network as it is--about as big as you can get right now--and people alreay pay enough to their Internet service providers. Who would want to pay additional fees just to play games solely for a specific system' date=' when every other major platform in existance doesn't feel it necessary to force their users to do so?[/quote']

With the ease of use that Xbox gives for online games I'll bet every major console in the future that offers online content has some sort of similar service setup. If you don't feel the need to pay for this service there are plenty of free alternatives. Everyone thinks you need to pay for live to go online. The only reason you would have to pay for Live is if you want the downloadable content for the games. There are a couple of free tunneling software programs that give you all of live's capabilities for free. Howeveer it is a nice alternative that is very easy to use. And the price is very nice at only $50 per year.

[MegaManFan]

As usual, people seem to be overreacting. AOL is providing a CONNECTIVITY PLATFORM, not GameCube internet service itself. They might advertise their service as the preferred way to access games online (perhaps via AOL Broadband) but they couldn't stop you from using Cox or RoadRunner to get online; and if they tried they'd be violating more laws than I care to count.

[Sylentwulf]

Wow... Well, look at the bright side, with ONE available online game, it's not going to affect AOL's Servers very much is it?

I don't know who got mored screwed out of that deal. Nintendo, Gamecube owners, or Aol,

[JB]

Agent X][quote=JB]Dreamcast, on PS2 to date, and GameCube to date have all left the

I fixed your quote for you.

Bandwidth is not free.
Hardware is not free.

The company that makes the online game has to support it.
With XBox Live, Microsoft does the support.

My original statement was accurate. Support of an online game is a burden, and one everyone but Microsoft leaves on the software company.

JB]Paying for a network subscription will likely remain unimaginable for non-XBox owners, on because XBox will likely remain the only system WITH a network.[/quote, said:

The "open" Internet is a mighty big network as it is--about as big as you can get right now--and people alreay pay enough to their Internet service providers. Who would want to pay additional fees just to play games solely for a specific system, when every other major platform in existance doesn't feel it necessary to force their users to do so?

I thought the proprietary was understood.

And you missed one important thing.
Most online XBox games ONLY have the XBox Live fee(Phantasy Star Online being a notable exception).
Usually you have to pay for the privilege of playing online if there's a central server.

So
MS = ISP + XBox Live + PSO.
Everyone else = ISP + individual fees for almost every online game you have.




And I'm not actually taking a pro- or anti-MS stance.
Or a pro- or anti-Nintendo stance.

[JagMX]

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Wow... Well, look at the bright side, with ONE available online game, it's not going to affect AOL's Servers very much is it?

I don't know who got mored screwed out of that deal. Nintendo, Gamecube owners, or Aol,

all in all i think they each got equal distribution of it

[shep]

I think Nintendo is preparing for their next console personally, not so much the cube.

[PuddWakkr]

[quote name='shep]I think Nintendo is preparing for their next console personally' date=' not so much the cube.[/quote']

Kinda sounds like Sega's console strategy doesn't it. To hell with whats out there now lets woryy about the next one.