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#1 Redcurrie OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:06 PM

Okay, we'll stay away from the "Why did you bid on something that you had no clue as to what it was" question...I'll seek professional help for the answer to that question but what are these controllers? It didn't take me long to figure out what the Odyssey was but does anyone have an idea of what power supply it will need?

http://cgi.ebay.com/...egory=4315&rd=1

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Posted Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:42 PM

no idea on the power supply you would need , but the controllers are for TI 99/a computer

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Posted Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:42 PM

Okay, forget the power supply question. I got a rapid reply from the guy with the website www.pong-story.com. It's a cool site if you've never seen it! Still don't know what the controllers are but they look like a potential paddle substitute as they appear to be attached...... :?

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Posted Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:10 PM

here is the system those joysticks GO TO

and a pic of my accessories i have for the TI99a

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Posted Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:01 PM

What a strange combination to auction off at once...

The controllers are definitely for a TI-99/4a... I have some in my basement. I hate to tell you, but the controllers completely suck, and I don't think you'll be able to use them on anything other than a TI-99/4a. Using them on an Atari is definitely out of the question.

It may be possible to modify them and break them into two seperate controllers and splice seperate plugs on them... but it wouldn't be worth it at all.

In case you have trouble finding a power supply for the pong machine, there's a good chance that you can actually use batteries in it. Back then, most of the dedicated machines had battery compartments. Unfortunately, you'll likely have to fill it up with 6 D batteries or something....

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Posted Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:39 AM

Ze_ro said:

What a strange combination to auction off at once...

The controllers are definitely for a TI-99/4a... I have some in my basement. I hate to tell you, but the controllers completely suck, and I don't think you'll be able to use them on anything other than a TI-99/4a. Using them on an Atari is definitely out of the question.

It may be possible to modify them and break them into two seperate controllers and splice seperate plugs on them... but it wouldn't be worth it at all.
True.

They used some lame foam blocks for the switches.

They're also rather similar to standard sticks, aside from the changes needed to get 2 on one port.

Instead of one input and 5 switch lines, they have 2 stick select lines and 5 return lines. The system rapidly switches between both sticks to generate 2 sticks on one port.


It works too, except for the fact that they're abominably stiff and have a horrible feel, and you can't change them for anything else.

...

Hmmm...
You could probably build a y-adapter to use standard sticks without much effort. I've seen a 1-stick adapter before, and it's just a few crossed wires to get the select1 and return lines matching the Atari port.





And relatively minor failings are that they don't work right with caps lock down, and aren't labelled in any way(1 2, red blue, left right, top bottom, strange charm, ANYTHING) so there's no real standard as to p1/p2 controllers(some games just use both sticks all the time and trust whoever isn't playing to not sabotage the active player).

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Posted Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:47 PM

JB said:

aren't labelled in any way(1 2, red blue, left right, top bottom, strange charm, ANYTHING)

Heheh, ah, nerdy jokes... just thought I'd point out that I understood the physics reference. That's the kind of joke I'd tell, and then go through life assuming that no one ever "got" it...

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Posted Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:09 PM

JB said:

Hmmm...
You could probably build a y-adapter to use standard sticks without much effort. I've seen a 1-stick adapter before, and it's just a few crossed wires to get the select1 and return lines matching the Atari port.


I have one made by discwasher called PointMaster 99/4a Adaptor

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Posted Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:38 PM

Ze_ro said:

JB said:

aren't labelled in any way(1 2, red blue, left right, top bottom, strange charm, ANYTHING)

Heheh, ah, nerdy jokes... just thought I'd point out that I understood the physics reference. That's the kind of joke I'd tell, and then go through life assuming that no one ever "got" it...

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I admit I WAS wondering if anyone would catch it.



Lemmi said:

JB said:

Hmmm...
You could probably build a y-adapter to use standard sticks without much effort. I've seen a 1-stick adapter before, and it's just a few crossed wires to get the select1 and return lines matching the Atari port.


I have one made by discwasher called PointMaster 99/4a Adaptor
YAY!
Didn't know anyone had made one, just that it was possible.

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Posted Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:35 AM

I have one made by Wico. And a Wico trackball and some spare joysticks, most of which i've given out to people over the years.

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Posted Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:26 PM

Lemmi said:

I have one made by discwasher called PointMaster 99/4a Adaptor

Which way does this thing convert? Does it let you use Atari joysticks on a TI? Or does it let you use TI joysticks on an Atari?

I can't really imagine the market for a product that lets you use TI controllers on anything else...

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Posted Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:55 PM

Ze_ro said:

Lemmi said:

I have one made by discwasher called PointMaster 99/4a Adaptor

Which way does this thing convert? Does it let you use Atari joysticks on a TI? Or does it let you use TI joysticks on an Atari?

I can't really imagine the market for a product that lets you use TI controllers on anything else...

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Hypothetically it should work either way, ut based on the design in the picture I'm pretty sure it was intended to allow standard sticks on a 4a.

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Posted Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:12 PM

JB said:

Ze_ro said:

Lemmi said:

I have one made by discwasher called PointMaster 99/4a Adaptor

Which way does this thing convert? Does it let you use Atari joysticks on a TI? Or does it let you use TI joysticks on an Atari?

I can't really imagine the market for a product that lets you use TI controllers on anything else...

--Zero
Hypothetically it should work either way, ut based on the design in the picture I'm pretty sure it was intended to allow standard sticks on a 4a.

i used a regular 2600 stick to test it, and it worked great, i shoulda tried a genesis controller with it ;) :) maybe next time i dig it out :D
on the one sided part it says computer on it and the 2 sided part has controller1 and controller2

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Posted Sun Sep 21, 2003 9:20 AM

the TI has been featured in such movies as friday the 13th part 4 ;)




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