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[Albert]

I know we have some hardcore prototype collectors here, but I'm just curious roughly how many prototypes people have for different systems. I'm not a big prototype collector myself, although I do have several for the 2600 and 5200 (maybe 20 total?) and an oddball proto here and there for other systems. Nothing to write home about. How many protos does everyone else have?

..Al

[CincYnoTi]

including pre-release, WIP, demonstration-only:

2600: 2 data age, 2 parker bros, 2 activision, 2 xonox, about 10 atari, 1 donald duck speedboat box
intellivision: 1 T-card
commodore 64: 1 koala

[CPUWIZ]

CincYnoTi said:

2 xonox

Cool, which ones ?

[MattG/Snyper2099]

Here's what I got: (LIST UPDATED: 1/31/03)

2600
Enduro
Tapper
Gremlins
Pengo
Bugs Bunny (best's)
Omega Race (?)
Gangster Alley (?)
Egomania
Octopussy (USgames)
Maze (US games)
Raft Rider
Demon Attack

5200
Pac Man
Xari Arena

7800
Ballblazer

XE
Keystone Kapers
Atari Writer

C64
Forth (programming language)

Colecovision
Lady Bug

Genesis
Brett Hull Hockey '95

SNES
Fun n' Games (promo copy)

PS2
Activision Anthology

Belive it or not, 5 of those I found in the wild!

[Marco]

I have 46 Atari 2600 prototypes, all unreleased titles (I don't collect protos, demos, WIPs etc of released titles).

Cheers,
Marco

[Tempest]

Too many to count... Mostly 2600 and 5200 with a few 400/800, 7800, Astrocade, and Vic-20 protos thrown in. I also have one or two 32X, Jaguar, and Odyssey2 protos.

I believe my last proto count was around 200+, but I'm slimming down the collection. Now I'm only really interested in WIP and unreleased games.

Tempest

[Spirantho]

As of 20 minutes ago: 3!
I have
Ice Hockey
Robo Tank (sic - it's Robot Tank but the label says Robo Tank)
Space Robot (NTSC)

[UK WOMBLE]

Just 5 at the moment.

4 x Atari lab loaners, moon patrol, Krull, taz, sorcerers apprentice.

1 x Parker bros, Mr do's castle.

Si

[Tempest]

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2 x Atari lab loaners, moon patrol, Krull.

Dates please!

Tempest

[UK WOMBLE]

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Dates please!  

Tempest

I'll go and look now, but you'll have seen them already I guess , considering who they came from, mates of yours I think........

Si

[MattyXB]

Lets see:
Atari 2600 VCS:
Alpha Beam with Ernie (NTSC)
Centipede (PAL)
Demons to Diamonds (PAL)
Dolphin (NTSC)
Donald Duck's Speedboat (PAL) [Best Electronics, maybe no real, but not released]
Human Cannonball (PAL)
Kung-Fu Master (NTSC)
Millipede (PAL)
Obelix (PAL)
Off Your Rocker (NTSC) + 2 manuals [maybe no real Proto, but was not released]
Oscar's Trash Race (NTSC) [Best Electronics, but I think real Prototype Board inside]
Peter Penguin (PAL) [not sure, but looks strange, and I think its real]
Raiders of the Lost Ark (NTSC) [ROM a bit different, but can't see in game]
Seaquest (PAL) [calls on Lable Sea Quest]
Sorcerer's Apprentice (PAL)
Taz (NTSC) [no TAZ in titlescreen, only copyright]

Atari 7800:
Prototype Board [no Game on it]

NES:
Crystalis (NTSC) [different then the released Version, but not much and I don't know exact where]

Sega Mega Drive (Genesis):
Mickey's Ultimate Challenge (PAL)
Micro Machines Turbo Tournament '96 (PAL)

So 16 Atari 2600 VCS + 1 Atari 7800 + 1 NES + 2 Mega Drive = 20 Prototypes. But I own many more Demo's and Promo's and other Rare games, which not official released. But this are all Prototypes, which I know in the moment.

[Mayhem]

2, both for the C64: Crystal Castles and HESMon.

[Tempest]

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2, both for the C64: Crystal Castles and HESMon.

CC any different? I imagine testing HESMon would be quite a pain...

Tempest

[Mayhem]

The HESMon "proto" is evidently different from the released item as can be seen here:

http://www.mayhem64.co.uk/hesmon.htm

As for Crystal Castles, Atari to my knowledge never released their version of the game on cartridge in 1984. It was completed but never came out. A company here in the UK called US Gold bought the rights to it and sold it within Europe at Xmas 86 on tape/disc. Thundervision released their own version in 84 on disc, which explains why there are two different programs of it running around.

I've never seen Crystal Castles listed in ANY C64 Atari catalog or spiel (manuals, back of boxes etc) but I have seen Stargate, Mario Bros and Joust mentioned, three other games which seemingly never made it out either. I own what I believe to be the actual programs of Mario Bros and Stargate on pirated disc, but I've never seen Joust.

[-^Cro§Bow^-]

I only have 2 VCS protos. My Parker Bros. WIP StarWars:Tag and my proto but final release of Gyruss. However, I could include Andrew Davies first release of QB with the jumping screen to be a proto as I still have that one and the fixed version both.

I also have a few PC game protos..though it would be hard to prove, other than I know they are protos since they were sent to me directly. Of those I have a Starsiege Beta CD from Sierra/Dynamix as I was a Beta tester on that game. And a hand written prelease beta 2 of CyberStom2 also from beta testing for Sierra/Dynamix back in the late 90s. Somewhere I should still have my Beta CD from when I beta tested Ultima Online but I haven't seen that one in a while and as I recall, it too was a generic hand written CDR.

[Cassidy Nolen]

I have 5 Atari lab loaners:

A-Team
Donald Duck Speedboat
Obelix
Quadrun (autographed)
'Sorcerer' (work in progress of Sorcerer's Apprentice)

Had some others....somehow a few ended up across the Atlantic

I still REALLY want a Polo prototype. I am willing to pay for it. Come on, whoever has it, you know you want to sell it to me

Cassidy

[ren.dhark]

my small collection:

Atari 2600
- Crystal Castles (Atari)
- Battlezone (Atari)
- Pigs in space (Atari)
- 2 x Sorcerers Apprentice (Atari Germany)
- Bermuda Triangle (Data Age)

Intellivision
- River Raid (Activision)

[Tempest]

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- Crystal Castles (Atari)  
- Battlezone (Atari)  
- Pigs in space (Atari)  
- 2 x Sorcerers Apprentice (Atari Germany)  
- Bermuda Triangle (Data Age)

Dates please! Could I get a scan of Bermuda Triangle from you? I don't have a page for that one yet (and I'm not looking forward to writing it either!).

Tempest

[Ferris]

Here's what I have in the "Institute Museum" ::

7800 ProSystem
Asteroids 3-D (eprom prototype early 1984)
Sentinel NTSC (official prototype eprom)
KLAX NTSC (official prototype eprom)
PitFighter (official prototype eprom)
GATO (eprom prototype - gotta find it)
Dig Dug Pre-Production label cartridge
Pole Position II Pre-Production label cartridge
Centipede Pre-Production label cartridge
Joust Pre-Production label cartridge

5200 SuperSystem
Atari Video System X Prototype System - currently undergoing restoration
Gary Rubio CX52P 5200 Paddle Controller
DigDug
Star Wars

Atari 8-Bit
Superman III - supposedly played by Christopher Reeve himself.

Looking For
Transparent 7800 Prototype System & Joystick
7800 Documentation
3600/3200 Cartridge Boards

[ren.dhark]

Tempest said:

Dates please!  Could I get a scan of Bermuda Triangle from you?

Hi Tempest,

here are the dates:

Atari 2600
- Crystal Castles (Atari) : no date
- Battlezone (Atari) : 05-25-83
- Pigs in space (Atari) : 7-29
- 2 x Sorcerers Apprentice (Atari Germany): No. 5/49 & No. 7/49
- Bermuda Triangle (Data Age) : Serial No. 443

Sorry, but I have no scanner at the moment. Pic is here:
http://www.intellivi.../pigs-proto.htm

I can try to make a better picture of the Data Age cart if you want.

Günther

[Marco]

Cassidy Nolen said:

I still REALLY want a Polo prototype.  I am willing to pay for it.  Come on, whoever has it, you know you want to sell it to me

No I won't!

Cheers,
Marco

[CPUWIZ]

It's funny, with the exception of a couple of people, almost everyone in this thread owns at least one of my protos now.

[Adrian M]

Sadly I do not own any protos (yet). I guess I'm still trying to fill in the gaps in my regular collection plus I've been getting into homebrew games lately too.

The closest thing I own to a proto would be a cart version of "Rabbit Transit" but it appears that this is a repro (has a nice color label and end label) rather than the proto that was found floating around several years back. It's a great game, by the way.

[CPUWIZ]

Adrian M said:

The closest thing I own to a proto would be a cart version of "Rabbit Transit" but it appears that this is a repro (has a nice color label and end label) rather than the proto that was found floating around several years back.  It's a great game, by the way.

Where did you get that from ? I own one of the 2 known Rabbit Transit lab-loaners.

[Adrian M]

CPUWIZ said:

Adrian M said:

The closest thing I own to a proto would be a cart version of "Rabbit Transit" but it appears that this is a repro (has a nice color label and end label) rather than the proto that was found floating around several years back.  It's a great game, by the way.

Where did you get that from ? I own one of the 2 known Rabbit Transit labe-loaners.

I got it as part of a recent trade from a respected fellow forum member.