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[Jeffshaw]

Hi, I am new here, but picked up on the rumor that Xybots was orginally going to be Gaunlet 3, and i wondered if there was ever a proto of the gaunlet version of Xybots? thanks for any info

[Shawn Sr.]

I know that xybots was a tengen concept game but as far as a release all I have seen was a "coming soon" ad sheet that had xybots on the list for release on the NES. But then tengen died I loved tengen.

[NovaXpress]

Sounds like bullshit to me. Where did you hear it?

Xybots was released in the arcade (1987) not long after Gauntlet II. No way were they connected by anything other than a similar manufacturer. The only apparent connection between the two games are that both the original Gauntlet and Xybots were designed by Ed Logg.

[Shawn Sr.]

I will find the ad poster and send you a copy of it. It was a TENGEN pack in poster they sent in one of there games for the NES titles they released. I will find it as soon as I can and post it up for ya. It's far from "Bullshit"

[NovaXpress]

I know damn well that Xybots was announced for the NES and in fact I have pictures of the screenshots as well.

I'm saying the idea that Xybots was supposed to be Gauntlet 3 is bullshit.

[Tempest]

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I'm saying the idea that Xybots was supposed to be Gauntlet 3 is bullshit.

And you base this on what? Hmmm?

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[NovaXpress]

I base this on there being no apparent reason to think that there is a connection. Do you know of any reason? Hmmm?

For example: I say that Centipede is actually the sequel to Asteroids. I have nothing more to back this up. Do you assume that I am right or assume that I am wrong?

[Inky]

Here's the thing about xybots, though...


It has essentially the same gameplay as Gauntlet, so the case COULD be made that Xybots was supposed to be an incarnation of the Gauntlet line.

However, I do recall someone having mentioned that Xybots was indeed programmed as Gauntlet originally. The KLOV doesn't mention anything about this, though.

[Tempest]

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I base this on there being no apparent reason to think that there is a connection. Do you know of any reason? Hmmm?

Not with that attitude. Hmmm...

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[NovaXpress]

You "hmmmed" me first buddy!

If there's a connection then I'd be fascinated because I'm a big fan of both games, but I've never seen any reason to believe Xybots was ever meant to be anyhting other than sci-fi. The only similarity is that both games take place in a maze.

[crc_73]

Agent X might be able to provide a better clue to the source of this rumour; he posted some information in the Lynx forum in a topic about Xybots:

http://www.atariage....pic.php?t=55221

To quote Agent X

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I read somewhere that Xybots was originally supposed to be a pseudo-first-person Gauntlet game (it's actually third-person, with a 3D, over-the-shoulder perspective), but they suddenly decided they didn't want it as part of the Gauntlet series. So, they changed the entire theme of the game from "medieval" to "futuristic," and it became the Xybots that we're all familiar with now.

[Gabriel]

The Midway Arcade Treasures 2 disc in the extras for Xybots says that Ed Logg "planned to make a 3D Gauntlet game right after Gauntlet II. Designs changed and a new game was born."

[NovaXpress]

Which doesn't make it "Gauntlet 3" in any way. When Crystal Castles began development it was supposed to be an Asteroids sequel, but that was thrown totally out the window and a new game created. This seems to be the same situation.

[liquid_sky]

NovaXpress said:

You "hmmmed" me first buddy!

If there's a connection then I'd be fascinated because I'm a big fan of both games, but I've never seen any reason to believe Xybots was ever meant to be anyhting other than sci-fi. The only similarity is that both games take place in a maze.

you guys should really quit giving each other hummers in public

[Jeffshaw]

NovaXpress said:

Which doesn't make it "Gauntlet 3" in any way. When Crystal Castles began development it was supposed to be an Asteroids sequel, but that was thrown totally out the window and a new game created. This seems to be the same situation.

sorry i have been gone for so long...
well, all i am saying it's a shame that the gaunlet concept was canned, i wonder how close it was to being finished when atari said no?

[TheRedEye]

NovaXpress said:

I know damn well that Xybots was announced for the NES and in fact I have pictures of the screenshots as well.

Yeah, well, I have the game, so there!

[Shawn Sr.]

TheRedEye said:

NovaXpress said:

I know damn well that Xybots was announced for the NES and in fact I have pictures of the screenshots as well.

Yeah, well, I have the game, so there!

Can I get a copy of the please??

[TheRedEye]

long_shawn_silver said:

TheRedEye said:

NovaXpress said:

I know damn well that Xybots was announced for the NES and in fact I have pictures of the screenshots as well.

Yeah, well, I have the game, so there!

Can I get a copy of the please??

Not yet. I won't be selling them or anything, but the ROM will be around eventually.

[Brian D. Deuel]

From Ed Logg:

"Xybots came from a challenge by Doug Snyder, a hardware engineer at Atari. We wanted to do a multi-player Castle Wolfenstein-like game that had no 'bit map' hardware. So I created an algorithm based on 8 by 8 stamps and he did the hardware. I started the game as a two-player split-screen Gauntlet III. Partway through, marketing said they wanted something other than Gauntlet. So I changed the characters and enemies to be more like Major Havoc. I still regret changing the theme and wish I kept my original concept."

Definitely not bullshit.

[Brian D. Deuel]

Something I forgot...

Yeah... the original concept was created as Gauntlet III, but there was never any code done for it. The game was always Xybots.

So, there was a connection. I think "bullshit" is too strong of a word for something that came directly from the designer himself

[Jeffshaw]

Brian D. Deuel, on Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:10 AM, said:

Something I forgot...

Yeah... the original concept was created as Gauntlet III, but there was never any code done for it. The game was always Xybots.

So, there was a connection. I think "bullshit" is too strong of a word for something that came directly from the designer himself

well, the prvious post you made, amde it sound like there was some code written for it, an algarthim (typo) written, wouldn't that be considered as code? I still say it's too bad the game was never finished