Cousin Vinnie Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 What do you think of this artwork for that game? I'd like a better font, however. http://www.flipsiderunner.com/7800/SAVEMARY.JPG Hey, have you ever noticed that the 7800 silver is the exact opposite (negative) of the late 2600 burgandy? Weird. Cousin Vinnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Other than the font that looks pretty cool. May I ask what it's for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 May I ask what it's for? http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/s...ry/savemary.htm Atari7800.com promised repros of the game on 7800 boards eons ago but nothing ever became of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 May I ask what it's for? http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/s...ry/savemary.htm Atari7800.com promised repros of the game on 7800 boards eons ago but nothing ever became of it. They got moved to Video 61. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Honestly, I don't care for the box cover art. The game involves dropping bricks from girders so Mary can climb up on them to escape a rising river. None of that plot comes across with that art. Your art is a little too abstract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cousin Vinnie Posted January 4, 2005 Author Share Posted January 4, 2005 I thought she would drown if you screwed up. CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralstorm Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Is there an actual version/proto of this game for the 7800, or is this the 2600 game in a 7800 cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Is there an actual version/proto of this game for the 7800, or is this the 2600 game in a 7800 cart? Just 2600, but obviously it will work on the 7800. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I've always had a problem with this being advertised as a "7800" game as it doesn't use MARIA, the additional memory or a 7800 sized cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I thought that a little weird as well. It doesn't make much sense to call it a 7800 game when it really isn't. If it could be hacked to take advantage of MARIA and the other things, then I would be interested. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I thought that a little weird as well. It doesn't make much sense to call it a 7800 game when it really isn't. I agree. It isn't an Atari 7880 game, no more so than Combat or ET. -Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I think everyone attempting to call any 2600 title a "7800" game needs to remember a couple of technical differences between the 2600 and 7800. The 7800 was kind of built around three design goals. 1. To be backwards compatible with the 2600 out of the box (a big gripe with the 5200) 2. To have graphics and animation capabilities that were either comparable to or superior to arcade machines, consoles and computers of the day. 3. To be able to expand with additional peripherals. Save Mary is NOT a 7800 game. It doesn't run in "7800 mode". It uses TIA to generate graphics, not MARIA. The processor runs at 1.19 MHZ throughout, not 1.79 MHZ. The game is a 16K bankswitched cartridge, not a 1 megabit bankswitched cartridge. Bankswitching is in 4K blocks, not 48K blocks. The additional memory chips of the 7800 are not turned on. It's a 2600 game that the repro people can't get to run properly on 2600 hardware, not a 7800 game. It shouldn't be advertised as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 That's even stranger (to me anyways) that it won't run on regular 2600 hardware. Since the 7800 has to be used anyways, I say take the code and hack it to take advantage of 7800's chips. It could make a great entry for the contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cousin Vinnie Posted January 5, 2005 Author Share Posted January 5, 2005 Well, I'm just designing box art for my own copy of the game. I didn't mean to dig up this old debate about the game. Yes, Shaggy... this would be a great hack for the contest. CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 BTW awhile back I found a PAL version of Save Mary. If anyone needs the PAL version let me know. I meant to post this awhile back,b ut forgot. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzLee Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 That's even stranger (to me anyways) that it won't run on regular 2600 hardware. Since the 7800 has to be used anyways, I say take the code and hack it to take advantage of 7800's chips. It could make a great entry for the contest. Huh???? Of course it works on regular 2600 hardware. It isn't a 7800 game! A complimentary example would be the Cuttle Cart 2. It only works on 7800s, that doesn't make all the 2600 games on it 7800 games. -Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 BTW awhile back I found a PAL version of Save Mary. If anyone needs the PAL version let me know. I meant to post this awhile back,b ut forgot. Tempest I'd like to see a copy. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 That's even stranger (to me anyways) that it won't run on regular 2600 hardware. Since the 7800 has to be used anyways, I say take the code and hack it to take advantage of 7800's chips. It could make a great entry for the contest. Huh???? Of course it works on regular 2600 hardware. It isn't a 7800 game! A complimentary example would be the Cuttle Cart 2. It only works on 7800s, that doesn't make all the 2600 games on it 7800 games. -Lee Save Mary has additional cart hardware that you have to shove in there to make it run on a 2600...otherwise, it works on a 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_Dodgson Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Save Mary is being sold on a 7800 Supercart board - you would break it if you could get it to slot it in an actual 2600. It's on the 7800 board because it is much cheaper than trying to recreate a 2600 bank-switched cartridge with Sarah RAM. To get it to work on a 7800, the 2600 bank selected image was "unfolded" to a linear address mapping (which was how it was developed) and a RAM chip put on a 7800 Supercart. For those with binaries of the image, the first few instructions lock the 7800 and the official developer RAM board into 2600 mode. Conclusion: It is being sold as for the 7800 because the physical cartridge will not fit, nor will the software as mapped, run on any 2600 hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Tempest wrote: BTW awhile back I found a PAL version of Save Mary. If anyone needs the PAL version let me know. I meant to post this awhile back,b ut forgot. Tempest I'd like to see a copy. Mitch Ok I'll dig it out and post it tonight. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legeek Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 That's even stranger (to me anyways) that it won't run on regular 2600 hardware. Since the 7800 has to be used anyways, I say take the code and hack it to take advantage of 7800's chips. It could make a great entry for the contest. Save Mary is a great game as is. No hacks please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Is there an actual version/proto of this game for the 7800, or is this the 2600 game in a 7800 cart? Just 2600, but obviously it will work on the 7800. Tempest Matt, I'm loving your new avatar... poor Pac Man, must be tough for him, being retired, the pension isn't paying out well, he got screw over on that royalty deal... Now he sits home, a biter and washed up former vidgame celeb... Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Is there an actual version/proto of this game for the 7800, or is this the 2600 game in a 7800 cart? Just 2600, but obviously it will work on the 7800. Tempest Matt, I'm loving your new avatar... poor Pac Man, must be tough for him, being retired, the pension isn't paying out well, he got screw over on that royalty deal... Now he sits home, a biter and washed up former vidgame celeb... Curt Don't forget the divorce from Ms. Pac-Man after she became more famous then him and started to date other celeberties like Donkey Kong. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cousin Vinnie Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 Don't forget the divorce from Ms. Pac-Man after she became more famous then him and started to date other celeberties like Donkey Kong. Allan Looks like he's gained some weight, too. Shame. CV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Don't forget the divorce from Ms. Pac-Man after she became more famous then him and started to date other celeberties like Donkey Kong. Once you go ape, there's no escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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