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[Atariboy2600]

I know there's many pages that tells you how to make a real 2600/5200/7800 games by burning in to chips but I need REAL help like with photos and step by step plus where to get the tools to do it I cant read the Q&A all the way and knowing what the helll they saying. I wanted to see the errom chip on a real burnner and plus the cables that plug from PC to the chips also what type of chip and cart boards needed to make it.

Remeber Photos!

What I need Is a "Making Atari Carts For Dummys" And Yes Im a DUMMY.

Edited by Atariboy2600, Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:12 PM.

[CPUWIZ]

That'd be $25 please.

[Atariboy2600]

CPUWIZ, on Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:27 PM, said:

That'd be $25 please.

Will you be taking "Fun Money?"

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Have fun and learn to use Google.

[djmips]

a cart.

http://www.atariage....2.jpg&width=400


order the type with sockets.

an Eprom

a cheaper programmer.

http://www.willem.or...ges/board41.jpg

another programmer for sale

BP Microsystems programmer EP1140

Now, you must remember that the orientation of a chip is determined by the little semi circle or cut out on end.

cut out on end of chip

chip showing pins

Chip pins

Always align the chip properly, and make sure it's sitting in the programmer properly.

The socket on the board also has a cut on the end to ensure alignment.

Eproms can be erased by shining UV light on them. To build your own EPROM eraser, all you need is a germicidal bulb and a fluorescent fixture. The light is hazardous. Make a safe enclosure.

http://www.nerd-out....rom_erasing.htm

http://members.misty.../uvbulb.html#ge

Programmer software varies a lot from burner to burner.

It is almost always hard to understand and make work, even for experts.

But there aren't that many options so you may be able learn by trial and error.

[supercat]

Atariboy2600, on Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:10 PM, said:

I know there's many pages that tells you how to make a real 2600/5200/7800 games by burning in to chips but I need REAL help like with photos and step by step plus where to get the tools to do it I cant read the Q&A all the way and knowing what the helll they saying. I wanted to see the errom chip on a real burnner and plus the cables that plug from PC to the chips also what type of chip and cart boards needed to make it.

Buy some of Al's boards with sockets, and some chips of the proper sizes. Program the chips, put them in the sockets, and you're done.

Note that if you do things this way, the boards won't fit very well into unmodified game cartridge housings because the scoket adds too much height to the chip. Using a dremel on the housing should probably fix that, though.

[Bruce Tomlin]

djmips, on Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:50 PM, said:

BP Microsystems programmer EP1140

I'm a big fan of those. BP still supports every one of their parallel-port programmers with their current software. The models worth looking at for being cheap but capable are EP1132, EP1140, and CP1128. The CP1128 only does 28 pins, but it lets you program GAL chips if you need to. I normally use a CP-1128 and an EMP-20 hooked up with a parallel port switch.

There's also the EP-1 if you want something that programs over RS-232, but they're not as simple to use. Those need to have their EPROM upgraded manually, but it's got a command-line interface and takes XMODEM uploads at 38400 baud.

Here is my bookmarked ebay search for EPROM programmers. Just ignore the JBL speakers that show up from time to time.

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Eproms can be erased by shining UV light on them. To build your own EPROM eraser, all you need is a germicidal bulb and a fluorescent fixture. The light is hazardous. Make a safe enclosure.

...but it's probably better to get something that's specifically designed for erasing EPROMs. A really good one that can do 8 or 9 chips is the Ango LA6T, but they're not cheap. I think they're in the $90-100 range. (I think mine was $75 ten years ago. Yes, they've been around that long.) Something that only does 2-4 chips will be cheaper.

[Atariboy2600]

djmips, on Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:50 PM, said:

a cart.

http://www.atariage....2.jpg&width=400


order the type with sockets.

an Eprom

a cheaper programmer.

http://www.willem.or...ges/board41.jpg

another programmer for sale

BP Microsystems programmer EP1140

Now, you must remember that the orientation of a chip is determined by the little semi circle or cut out on end.

cut out on end of chip

chip showing pins

Chip pins

Always align the chip properly, and make sure it's sitting in the programmer properly.

The socket on the board also has a cut on the end to ensure alignment.

Eproms can be erased by shining UV light on them. To build your own EPROM eraser, all you need is a germicidal bulb and a fluorescent fixture. The light is hazardous. Make a safe enclosure.

http://www.nerd-out....rom_erasing.htm

http://members.misty.../uvbulb.html#ge

Programmer software varies a lot from burner to burner.

It is almost always hard to understand and make work, even for experts.

But there aren't that many options so you may be able learn by trial and error.

Hey thats what Im talking about, thanks^_^ Not to fine out how the helll I can opan an used 2600/7800 carts

[Shawn Sr.]

Atariboy2600, on Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:23 AM, said:

Hey thats what Im talking about, thanks^_^ Not to fine out how the helll I can opan an used 2600/7800 carts

Remove the label with a heat gun, Remove the screw(s) from the face of the cart. On 2600 carts with a glide you need to pushthe glide in from the side with a flat head and then you will notice some notches holding it together just pul the cart apart at the sides and try not to break the notches. On a 7800 cart there is no glide so just look where the notches are and pull it apart. Simple as that.