+poobah Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Testing prototypes actually sounds like it could be fun. What kind of programmer is needed? Robert Xilinx JTAG cables: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainjh Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'll volunteer also, prepay is A-ok for me. Let us know what we need to do. However would you foresee a lot of taking the 800 apart? Alo re timescales.. Fyi my 800 will be on a ship in a container mid march to mid April. Just FYI as not to disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 april is fine, i don't expect to have it fired up and usable until march, so april is not so far i'm expecting 2 boards revisions as i haven't had a single case of me doing a board and making no mistakes even if design was verified by another engineer i'll get some quotes from pcb manufacturers and report back i'll limit betatesters to 10, and can promise that if 3rd rev of the board will be needed (production version), they will be given it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I am thinking about getting one of these programmers. http://www.blackboxconsulting.com.au/product-details/digilint-jtag-hs1.html?gclid=CMnY1py_6K0CFULrKgodvg-T5A http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,395,716&Prod=XUP-USB-JTAG Price is not too bad. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 i've got some quotes from pcb house and semiconductors companies, and i can assume that 10 blank pcb's will be 1200pln (gold-plated, electrically tested) parts should be another 1000pln that for 10pcs 250pln (78usd) per assembled prototype seems to be realistics - remember that this price is prototype only, and excludes any labour cost whatever - just for people wanting to participate in this venture board cost is linear, so if doing less than 10, price will drop lineary, same with parts - no MOQ for any price breaks, since i'll be reusing my stock from ultimate boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 willing to be a tester, PAL 800 here. will need a jtag cable though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 let me send your stuff back first Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 let me send your stuff back first Mike Just put it all in one big box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+poobah Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Well, I'd be willing to test the prototypes. I got plenty of 800s and Xilinx JTAG cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I am going to order jtag cables in the next couple of weeks also, I have 2 or 3 800 ntsc stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 i would apreciate if someone could make me a photo of cpu board (pal version) as my tv doesn't support ntsc - i would replace antic and gtia chip and add whats nessesary to the board it seems to be universal another reuqest - if any of you have cased version of personality board - i would apreciate some pictures of how its assembled and some dimensions - it would be nice to have case for it as an option, even if that would be just 3d print from shapeways, or similiar service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 i've got some quotes from pcb house and semiconductors companies, and i can assume that 10 blank pcb's will be 1200pln (gold-plated, electrically tested) parts should be another 1000pln that for 10pcs 250pln (78usd) per assembled prototype seems to be realistics - remember that this price is prototype only, and excludes any labour cost whatever - just for people wanting to participate in this venture board cost is linear, so if doing less than 10, price will drop lineary, same with parts - no MOQ for any price breaks, since i'll be reusing my stock from ultimate boards What is the part number of the CPLD that needs flashing? Need to see if the wilem programmer will do it Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 no it won't its xc95144xl in tqfp100 package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yep it isn't supported... Crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) The personality board is housed in a case identical to the RAM boards, two parts plastic shell with detachable metal plate. there is a sticker on the top so I'm not going to split mine. Hi res versions at http://mimo.picturepush.com/album/191184/p-pal-800.html# Edited January 27, 2012 by mimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hello Kitty! Sorry Mike, couldn't help myself Thanks for the pictures Cold You print out this without any scalling put on piece of cardboard and see how it fits? i know there is no mounting holes right now, but they won't fit anyways also - it would be nice if you could do some more photos of the case at various angles, if you could measure depths both sides it would be even better Sebastian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I thought you might like the backdrop it was my youngest daughters birthday on Tuesday and that is my excuse. sorry I don't own a printer so can't do that for you. If my memory serves me well I think I have a spare ram case in the garage, maybe I could send it to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 it would be helpfull Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 hopefully i'll finnish this tomorrow: need to re-think reset circuitry as its quite diffrent from xl/xe line, and write axlon emulation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 hopefully i'll finnish this tomorrow: need to re-think reset circuitry as its quite diffrent from xl/xe line, and write axlon emulation Holy shit man - how do you work so fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 fast? i'm quite slow compared to others, besides, this is only 2 layer board with components on top side for work i do 4-8 layers with BGA components with 0.4-0.5mm pitch (so called HDI), but these are rare because of technology cost, usually 6 layers with 0.8mm pitch BGA you can route without HDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) little update.. i'll call it a day Edited January 29, 2012 by candle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 little update.. i'll call it a day Very nice looking! sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 little update.. i'll call it a day You have probably already compensated for this, but it is important to remember that the Atari PBI pinout is reversed from the industry standard. I mention this because the numbering shown on the PBI header is industry standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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