HSC8 Round 10: Up the Creek!

[+therealbountybob]

Ok here we go folks, hope you've managed to get hold of some paddles, and if you're lucky a set that you can control!!! We have tons of games and lots of rules (I like rules as you know, especially my rules) this may be tweaked as we go, games may be substituted if we run into issues etc...

Everyone welcome to play

 

Up the Creek!

 

Tournament closes July 5th 10am BST

 

Rules

Firstly - you must play with paddles / emulated paddles if you can. Paddles details here.

Six games also support Joystick and another supports keyboard so if you haven't got any paddles, you can still play (but there may be a score reduction to counter any benefit).

You have three passes; you can miss up to three games and be awarded an average score.

 

If you have no way of downloading the games, substitute any games from your collection that haven't been played before in the HSC. You'll score 2 HSC points for each (and I'll set you some challenges once I see what you're playing). [i'd recommend saving the pennies for Atarimax's APE/SIO2USB ]

 

Scoring will be points per players; if five players play a game then the top place gets 5 points and last place gets 1, simple :!: These points are totalled and allocated real HSC points (acceptable in many countries) as follows: 1st 24 points, 2nd 22pts, 3rd 20, 4th 19, 5th 18, down to 12 for 11th-15th, 10 for 16th-18th and 8 19th-20th and 6pts for any other places. [Ties will be decided by scoring on River Rat]

 

If you can keep your own score charts and post them occasionally that would be much apprecaited

 

Games on next post. If anyone wants any help at all please get in touch

[+therealbountybob]

The Games

 

We have a varied selection of paddling delights, if this is successful there are another bunch of games that would make a nice sequel. Hopefully everyone will find a few that they like I've put together 2 disks (ATR's 1050 enhanced density - DOS2.5 mypicodos / basic menu) you of course can download/play other versions from your collections

 

Download here:

UpTheCreekDOS25-A.atr

UpTheCreekDOS25-B.atr (ver2!)

 

Ski down to 'Paddle Creek', overcome the gaming challenges in it's world famous arcade and escape down the river at high speed back to reality

 

Details of the games, special loading instructions, play settings, and bonuses:

[note: rules in 1st post]

 

Downhill [P] [ATR]

Ski down the to paddle creek from the mountain top...

Boot Disk B with BASIC enabled (this game needs to be on a DOS disk as it loads a FoNT file)

Set slope to 60 degrees using the cursor keys.

Hold fire to slow matey down, point skis downhill to gain speed. There is a 10 second penalty for missing gates!

Press Start (again) to skip course fly over.

If you consider yourself one of the better HSC players play on intermediate and expert courses.

If you are not someone who regularly makes the HSC top 10 then play beginner and intermediate courses.

Times will be combined.

 

Super Breakout (x2) [P] [ROM]

Kill some evil bricks? erm must read the plot!

Play on each of the four games (select). Scores for 'breakout', 'double' and 'cavity' will be combined.

Bonus point for winner of each game.

The score for 'progressive' will be a separate game.

 

Kaboom! [P][J][ROM]

Catch and defuse bombs in your bucket of water?!

Players who regularly make the top 10 or who have ever won a HSC game play on 'small' paddles mode. Others select 'large' paddles mode (the icon in game shows this).

Non tournament Bonus challenge - anyone beating Zylon's score on large paddles will receive 1 HSC point

 

Wavy Navy [P][J][K][ATR]

We played Space Eggs so I was pleased to find another shooter that supported paddles.

Best to play the ATR version, link above, as it's the full version where the helicopters fire at you! If you want to play the easier file version it's on disk B, but would prefer the better players to play the ATR ver!]

Special Loading - boot Disk A, then insert Disk B and press 1 (to re-read drive 1). [Altirra users 'change disk' using -File -Disk Drives and browse to disk B]

Press select for the game menu:

Press "6. Advanced" also press "8. Sound On". Press "S" to start.

 

Clowns and Balloons [P][J][COM]

Time to kill some clowns, or was it save them, left a bit, right a bit, arrrgh me paddle jumped Stupid thing to try: pressing pause (esc) when the tune completes and make the clown disappear! (I really must get out more)

Press P for Paddles.

Play on 'Advanced' (select)

Novices can play on 'Beginner' but scoring is capped at 20K.

Bonus Challenge - play on 'Expert', top three players receive 3,2,1 tourney points.

As the game doesn't get any harder scores of 100K+ will count as a win on either level.

 

LiveWire [P][J][COM]

Tom Hudson's classic 3d grid based shooter. On later levels shields deflect your bullets back at you, boxes turn to sparks and they close you down, but you can still complete the level... if you're quick!

Press 'select' for paddles mode.

 

Spy's Demise [P][J][K][XEX]

Squash said spy under various lifts (that's elevators to you to meet his demise? )

Press P for Paddles

Make sure you turn it left before starting or you'll be crushed (like a fly!) yes I had to say it

 

Juggler (IDSI)[P][K][ATR]

Now this is the wildcard, I've never played it but it looks [checkout the advert on atarimania ]

[ FIXED XL/XE Version here thanks Marius ]

Needs 800/OS-A Translator, which I've kindly put on the disk. XL/XE users run the translator, press Start, after the disk reboots then run Juggler.

Press Return to Start a game.

At the level prompt press 1.

Press Control P to activate paddles mode. (after game starts!)

Press Control I for the menu.

 

Tilter [P][K] [BAS]

This is awesome! [ok not so awesome... the game is flawed so it'll be 2pts for playing, see post #238 for details]

Use both paddles at the same time, final score shown after the 5th round.

On Disk B (requires BASIC)

Settings for Altirra & Stelladaptor users with real paddles: one is set for JoyAxis H and the other is JoyAxis V. Set them both to Port 1 and make sure both are checked under the input map menu. You can't check them both off under the regular input menu. You have to check them off under the input map menu. Then, when you go under the input menu, you should then see both paddles with a radio button next to them and they should work just fine with Tilter.

[thanks to philsan/deteacher for this ]

Settings for Altirra with mouse emulation of paddles:

Add Paddle A (port1) Axis 1 as Mouse Move Horiz

Button 1 as Mouse LMB. Add Paddle B (port2) Axis 1 as Mouse Move Vert.

You must play using only up/down left/right movements - NO diagonals

 

River Rat [J][XEX]

Yes, joystick only. This is a gem of a game; escape from the creek in record time, great fun. In game Race and Time bonuses and watch out for those swimmers!

Press fire to toggle speeds.

Bonus Challenge 1 - Highest score at end of level 1

Bonus Challenge 2 - Highest level reached (indicated by flags on screen edge)

Bonus Challenge 3 - Highest score at end of level 4 (after 'special' bonus)

For each the top player receives 3pts, 2nd place 2pts, then 1pt for 3rd place.

 

The person(s) winning the most games will receive a 1 HSC point bonus :!:

Keep your eyes open for changes here folks.

PHEW :!:

Now let's get playing... who's that posting already, probably saying I forgot to put the games on

[+therealbountybob]

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HSC8 Bonus Round 10 *** UP THE CREEK! *** Final Standings
Rank	Player	Clowns	Down	Jug	Ka-	Live	River	Spy's	Super	Break	Tilter	Wavy	Total	HSC
		Balloon	hill	gler	boom!	Wire	Rat	Demise	br.db.cv	Prog.		Navy		Pts
1	trbb	19	8	10	14	14	20	14	14	12	2	13	140	24
2	McKong	12	9	9	12	10	20	15	13	11	2	12	125	22
3	Deteacher	10	5	11	9	9	12	12	10	14	2	14	108	20
4	atariron82	14		13	7	13	17	11	8	4	2	15	104	19
5	a8isa1	19	2	6	3	15	15	8	11	13	2	6	100	18
6	justin case	12	6	7	10	7	22	7	6	9	2	10	98	17
7	Marius 1976	5	3	8	13	10	10	13	12	10	2	9	95	16
8	zylon				16			16	18	15	2		67	15
9	bluecat	6	7	2	5	4	10	4	9	8	2	3	60	14
10	beamer320i	13		3	8	5	5	6	4	7	2	5	58	13
11	Philsan	8	11	1	6	12	6	2	3	1	2	2	54	12
12	Fres	2	10	5	11	8	2	5	3	2	2	4	54	12
13	orpheus waking	3	1	4	4	3	7	17	1	3	2	7	52	12
14	Diz	7	4	12	2	6	4	3	2	6	2	1	49	10
15	innuendo	9				1	12	10			2	11	45	10
16	roadrunner	1				2	9	9	7	5	2	8	43	10
17	Sloopy	4			15						2		21	8
18	littleman jack						3				2		5	8
19	goochman				1			1			2		4	8
20	travlar						1				2		3	6
21														6
22														6

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HSC8 Bonus Round 10 *** UP THE CREEK! *** Final Standings
Clowns and Balloons							Spy's Demise
Rank	Player	Score	Expert	Bonus	Points		Rank	Player	Score	Points
1	a8isa1	100000	100000	3	19		1	orpheus	11048	17
2	trbb	100000	100000	3	19		2	zylon	5592	16
3	atariron	61220	24460		14		3	McKong	5098	15
4	beamer320i	48610			13		4	trbb	4379	14
5	justin case	44800			12		5	Marius	4225	13
6	McKong	43090	28470	1	12		6	Deteacher	3743	12
7	Deteacher	29750			10		7	atariron	1822	11
8	innuendo	23310			9		8	innuendo	1755	10
9	Philsan	20910			8		9	roadrunner	1512	9
10	Diz	20000			7		10	a8isa1	1429	8
11	bluecat	19940	16700		6		11	justin case	1386	7
12	Marius	19000			5		12	beamer	1172	6
13	Sloopy	15430			4		13	Fres	1122	5
14	orpheus	12950			3		14	bluecat	921	4
15	Fres	9300			2		15	Diz	896	3
16	roadrunner	3360			1		16	Philsan	873	2
							17	goochman	790	1
Downhill (Combined)							Juggler
Rank	Player	Inter	Beg/Exp	Total	Points		Rank	Player	Score	Points
1	Philsan	34:61	24:38	58:99	11		1	atariron	89460	13
2	fres	34:81	25:08	59:89	10		2	Diz	84140	12
3	McKong	25:58	35:30	60:88	9		3	Deteacher	81660	11
4	trbb	24:33	37:83	62:16	8		4	trbb	65990	10
5	bluecat	36:58	32:86	69:44	7		5	McKong	61120	9
6	justin case	pass	pass	p75:00	6		6	Marius	53340	8
7	deteacher	35:53	42:55	78:08	5		7	justin case	p52178	7
8	Diz	51:43	28:86	80:29	4		8	a8isa1	49900	6
9	Marius	38:30	44:20	82:50	3		9	Fres	49550	5
10	a8isa1	36:61	61:38	97.99	2		10	orpheus	42430	4
11	orpheus	37:11	65:71	102:82	1		11	beamer	24110	3
							12	bluecat	14930	2
							13	Philsan	9510	1
Wavy Navy							Kaboom!
Rank	Player	Score	Points				Rank	Player	Score	Points
1	admiral atariron	8220	15				1	zylon (4468)	53604	16
2	captain deteacher	6560	14				2	Sloopy	12973	15
3	captain trbb	5770	13				3	trbb	2295	14
4	deckhand McKong	4580	12				4	Maruis	2247	13
5	deckhand innuendo	4320	11				5	McKong	2137	12
6	crewchief case	3470	10				6	Fres	1894	11
7	deckhand marius	2890	9				7	justin case	1823	10
8	deckhand rr	2730	8				8	Deteacher	1532	9
9	deckhand orpheus	2520	7				9	beamer	1502	8
10	cook a8isa1	2130	6				10	atariron	1462	7
11	cook beamer	2106	5				11	Philsan	1030	6
12	cook Fres	1840	4				12	bluecat	881	5
13	cook bluecat	1730	3				13	orpheus	526	4
14	boatswain Philsan	1060	2				14	a8isa1	417	3
15	boatswain Diz	740	1				15	Diz	390	2
							16	goochman	389	1
Super Breakout (Breakout+Double+Cavity)								Super Breakout (Progressive)
Rank	Player	Breakout	Double	Cavity	Bonus	Total	Points	Rank	Player	Score	Points
1	zylon	1342	1714	1632	3	4688	18	1	zylon	2068	15
2	trbb	909	1371	1582		3862	14	2	Deteacher	1938	14
3	McKong	873	1516	1347		3736	13	3	a8isa1	1924	13
4	Marius	659	1344	1625		3628	12	4	trbb	1749	12
5	a8isa1	883	1455	1235		3573	11	5	McKong	1730	11
6	Deteacher	814	603	471		1888	10	6	Marius	1657	10
7	bluecat	443	693	557		1693	9	7	justin case	966	9
8	atariron	321	547	714		1582	8	8	bluecat	844	8
9	roadrunner	400	508	421		1329	7	9	beamer	718	7
10	justin case	441	470	408		1319	6	10	Diz	508	6
11	beamer320i	410	410	457		1277	5	11	roadrunner	487	5
12	Fres	205	462	502		1169	4	12	atariron	440	4
13	Philsan	185	575	387		1147	3	13	orpheus	401	3
14	Diz	345	476	256		1077	2	14	Fres	382	2
15	orpheus	134	219	120		473	1	15	Philsan	256	1
River Rat								LiveWire
Rank	Player	Score	Level 1	Level 4	Hi Lvl	Bonus	Points	Rank	Player	Score	Points
1	justin case	455800	62250		Lv 7	5	22	1	a8isa1	24350	15
2	trbb	338900	57050	231690	Lv 7	4	20	2	trbb	16900	14
3	a8isa1	274930			Lv 4		15	3	atariron	15750	13
4	atariron	269070	57350	258690	Lv 5	3	17	4	Philsan	15300	12
5	McKong	261340	64150	259390	Lv 5	7	20	5	McKong	14200	11
6	innuendo	257990			Lv 4		12	6	Marius	13650	10
7	Deteacher	233080	60250		Lv 5	1	12	7	Deteacher	12450	9
8	bluecat	206470	56650		Lv 4		10	8	Fres	12450	8
9	roadrunner	200710			Lv 4		9	9	justin case	10650	7
10	Marius	198490	61150		Lv 4	1	9	10	Diz	9500	6
11	orpheus	128240	53550		Lv 3		7	11	beamer	9300	5
12	Philsan	127770			Lv 3		6	12	bluecat	9000	4
13	beamer320i	127470			Lv 3		5	13	orpheus	8950	3
14	Diz	118310	46750		Lv 3		4	14	roadrunner	8050	2
15	littleman	84290			Lv 2		3	15	innuendo	5700	1
16	Fres	77800			Lv 2		2
17	travlar	23640			Lv 2		1
Tilter
Rank	Player	Score	Points
1	excellent Fres	17:8	2
2	very good trbb	20:9	2
3	average McKong	24:8	2
4	average beamer320i	28.8	2
5	average a8isa1	31:6	2
6	Average Marius	32:1	2
7	average Diz	32:6	2
8	deteacher can do better	39:2	2
9	orpheus can do better	42:2	2
10	bluecat needs practice	52:2	2
11	Philsan needs practice	79:9	2
12	justin case passing	p99:9	2

[Marius]

Perhaps I missed something... but do we have to put scores off all the different games we play in this thread? I'm afraid that will become a MESS.

And is there a certain order in which 'we' have to play the games, or can I choose the game I want to play first?

 

 

Thanks

M.

[+therealbountybob]

Perhaps I missed something... but do we have to put scores off all the different games we play in this thread? I'm afraid that will become a MESS.

And is there a certain order in which 'we' have to play the games, or can I choose the game I want to play first?

Thanks

M.

Play any games you fancy in any order, post them all here!

I'll track the scoring and update the tables in post 3 - PLEASE DO NOT EDIT PREVIOUS POSTS FOLKS or I'll miss your scores.

[zylon]

Let the muskets fire and the cannons blaze! Opening volley.

Kaboom 15,758

[justin case]

Is anyone else having trouble getting any form of controller emulation recognised by Altirra with these games? I've probably tried at least 5 and so far the only success I've had is with Clowns & Balloons - which I hate!!!

[sloopy]

Let the muskets fire and the cannons blaze! Opening volley.

Kaboom 15,758

 

those are wide paddles!

;')

 

 

 

@officialninja, i am psychic, and i have a vision of you and orph at the bottom of the list ;'D

 

sloopy.

[sloopy]

and a template to enter scores...

 

Downhill:

 

Super Breakout (x2):

 

Kaboom!:1420 (small paddle)

 

Wavy Navy:

 

Clowns and Balloons:15430

 

LiveWire:

 

Spy's Demise:

 

Juggler:

 

 

Tilter:

 

 

River Rat:

 

 

sloopy.

[Deteacher]

Ok, let me get some scores in here:

 

Spy's Demise: 3,743! I wasn't going to post a score on this until I cleared the first level.

 

 

River Rat: 150,850! I made it to level 3, but I took the screenshot on the game over screen. Whoops!

 

 

River Rat Bonus Challenge: 59,150 after the first river.

 

 

Clowns & Balloons, Advanced: 21,730!

 

 

I got Juggler controls to work: 49,580!

 

Edited June 8, 2011 by Deteacher

[+orpheuswaking]

I don't see why you have to take a penalty for using a joystick, most games are harder with it!

 

 

[zylon]

Let the muskets fire and the cannons blaze! Opening volley.

Kaboom 15,758

 

those are wide paddles!

;')

 

 

 

@officialninja, i am psychic, and i have a vision of you and orph at the bottom of the list ;'D

 

sloopy.

It says I can use them in the rules. I have never won a game in this HSC and usually place pretty far down since I don't have most of the games. I am using the default setting.

[+orpheuswaking]

Interesting observations (Playing Clown Balloons) I started on my 800XL, but it's only composite, so I switched to a 130XE, and then huridely switched to my 600XL (with sVid out), Why???

 

1) 800XL - Ok paddles slight jitter but nothing to affect the game at all, but couldn't deal with the composite display on my Sony PVM

 

2) 130XE - SUXORS paddles, can keep the paddle still and it will suddenly jump to the other side of the screen

 

3) 600XL - Expecting ok paddles like the 800XL, but no these are ROCK SOLID no jitter at all, they act like brand new

 

(Bear in mind these paddles have new pots from B&C)

 

So 600XL for my paddle games I think

[zylon]

While it doesn't affect me, the joystick penalty seems stupid unless it's against analog sticks. As for Kaboom, IMO use whatever size paddles you want if you think it'll beat me. Win or lose, I'm going to have some fun along with my devilment.

I'm using stock paddles on 600xl. Video is worse, but the 600 responds better to the games at hand. I'll also be playing Super Breakout, but this one will have my full attention.

Loading double canister...

34,516

Edited June 8, 2011 by zylon

[sloopy]

Let the muskets fire and the cannons blaze! Opening volley.

Kaboom 15,758

 

those are wide paddles!

;')

 

 

 

@officialninja, i am psychic, and i have a vision of you and orph at the bottom of the list ;'D

 

sloopy.

It says I can use them in the rules. I have never won a game in this HSC and usually place pretty far down since I don't have most of the games. I am using the default setting.

 

damn, was trying to psych out the competition... doesnt look like its working ;')

 

sloopy.

[sloopy]

Downhill:

 

Super Breakout (x2):

 

Kaboom!:

1420 (small paddle)

12973 (large paddle) - just played 3 games with same paddles, just different hands... @zylon, just a warm up ;')

 

Wavy Navy:

 

Clowns and Balloons:

15430

 

LiveWire:

 

Spy's Demise:

 

Juggler:

 

 

Tilter:

 

 

River Rat:

 

 

sloopy.

[Charlie_]

and a template to enter scores...

 

Kaboom!:1420 (small paddle)

 

 

 

Why are you playing small paddle?

 

Whats up with all these different games? Why don't we play one game at a time?

This is kinda weird....

 

Anyway, play normal paddles and post a Kaboom score. I play better when I have a goal to beat.

[+therealbountybob]

Is anyone else having trouble getting any form of controller emulation recognised by Altirra with these games? I've probably tried at least 5 and so far the only success I've had is with Clowns & Balloons - which I hate!!!

Clownist!

 

To setup paddle emulation using the mouse in Altirra:

From the Input menu:

-Input Mappings

-"Mouse -> Paddle A (port1)"

 

To activate/deactive them

From the Input Menu

-Capture Mouse (or press F12 to toggle on off)

The left mouse button is fire.

Just tested in Kaboom! and was fine (nice with a pad mouse anyway!!!)

 

To enable(/disable) BASIC for Tilter and Downhill

-System Menu

-Firmware

-Enable BASIC

 

You'll probably need to use the 600Xl/800XL firmware (not the 'default' emulator ROM)

Download the ROM files from http://a800win.atari-area.prv.pl/ they're in with the xf25.zip (an old emulator) copy all *.ROM files in your altirra folder and then setup altirra:

-System menu

-Firmware

-ROM images

and browse/point to each of them.

 

Good luck

 

Tilter uses both paddles - on Atari800win+4.0 emulator the mouse up down axis is automatically mapped to the 2nd paddle making it ideal for this game... In Altirra I've edited the "Mouse ->Paddle A" setting and added 'Mouse Move Vert' on 'Axis 2' but it doesn't seem to work - anyone

[Charlie_]

 

It says I can use them in the rules. I have never won a game in this HSC and usually place pretty far down since I don't have most of the games. I am using the default setting.

 

I just think its odd that there are different rules for different players!

[+therealbountybob]

I don't see why you have to take a penalty for using a joystick, most games are harder with it!

Clowns and balloons is definitely not easier!!! C'mon get paddled up everyone

 

If anyone's after a set of paddles ebay currently has loads, search for "paddles atari" - some for as little as £5 delivered :!:

 

I just think its odd that there are different rules for different players!

Shaking things up a bit in the HSC; these few tweaks give others a chance for glory

[justin case]

Clownist? Me? Maybe - but I still say its their fault for wearing silly shoes!

 

I think you've outdone yourself on this one mate: I don't know whether to halve my score, double it or offer it as a sacrifice to the 8 Gods of Oldtimer Gaming!

 

However, knowing that you've got way too much time on your hands I'll stick to posting real scores and the emulation settings I used to embarress myself

 

So, Kaboom: I finally achieved a semblance of mouse control (before the bloody game overdosed on Speed) 1369 - if this were a Fist Person Shooter then the difficulty level would read as "Hell on Earth (with extra crispy bits!)" but it's not, so normal paddle / bat / bucket size.

 

What? You want pictures? Haven't I just embarressed myself enough? Ok!

 

There may be more to follow if I find myself with enough patience to fiddle with settings / prescription medication again!

Edited June 8, 2011 by justin case

[zylon]

Just for fun, I will also play with small paddles in addition to the normal ones.

Large paddles: 34,516

Small paddles: 3,950

[bluecat]

River Rat - a favourite of mine - got 204,880. 44,650 for first level (reached level 4)

[+therealbountybob]

One more top paddle tip, probably bleedin' obvious but usually paddle 2 is the better one, less use may be, so play the games on 2 player and kill off player 1

 

I stuffed up disk B's menus, please download it again from post 2 folks - Downhill will then work, you should see the BASIC menu after booting it